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Re: WPAC: NORU - Tropical Storm

#61 Postby Hayabusa » Sat Sep 24, 2022 3:01 am

Models have it landfalling in afternoon - evening, still has time to become *something*.

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Re: WPAC: NORU - Tropical Storm

#62 Postby doomhaMwx » Sat Sep 24, 2022 4:03 am

Looks like a lot of rain for Metro Manila.
 https://twitter.com/Weather_Manila/status/1573592413771538432


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Re: WPAC: NORU - Tropical Storm

#63 Postby mrbagyo » Sat Sep 24, 2022 4:13 am

Imran_doomhaMwx wrote:Looks like a lot of rain for Metro Manila.
https://twitter.com/Weather_Manila/status/1573592413771538432?t=2Fk5DsOTDX1pa2qiHkdoFw&s=19



And the 26th is the anniversary of Ketsana's (Ondoy) deluge
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Tropical Storm

#64 Postby Hayabusa » Sat Sep 24, 2022 5:54 am

06Z 100 knots before landfall
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Tropical Storm

#65 Postby mrbagyo » Sat Sep 24, 2022 6:18 am

I'm so glad that the radars are online - I hope it stays this way

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Re: WPAC: NORU - Typhoon

#66 Postby doomhaMwx » Sat Sep 24, 2022 6:18 am

Now a typhoon by JMA and forecast of 80kts/960mb before landfall!
T2216(Noru)
Issued at 2022/09/24 09:45 UTC

Analysis at 09/24 09 UTC
Grade TY
Scale -
Intensity -
Center position N15°50′ (15.8°)
E126°35′ (126.6°)
Direction and speed of movement WSW 15 km/h (9 kt)
Central pressure 980 hPa
Maximum sustained wind speed near center 35 m/s (65 kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 50 m/s (95 kt)
Radius of 50-kt wind area 55 km (30 NM)
Radius of 30-kt wind area SW280 km (150 NM)
NE220 km (120 NM)

Forecast for 09/24 21 UTC
Grade TY
Intensity -
Center position of probability circle N15°20′ (15.3°)
E124°20′ (124.3°)
Direction and speed of movement W 20 km/h (11 kt)
Central pressure 975 hPa
Maximum sustained wind speed near center 35 m/s (70 kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 50 m/s (100 kt)
Radius of probability circle 65 km (35 NM)
Radius of storm warning area 120 km (65 NM)

Forecast for 09/25 09 UTC
Grade TY
Intensity -
Center position of probability circle N15°25′ (15.4°)
E122°05′ (122.1°)
Direction and speed of movement W 20 km/h (11 kt)
Central pressure 960 hPa
Maximum sustained wind speed near center 40 m/s (80 kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 60 m/s (115 kt)
Radius of probability circle 95 km (50 NM)
Radius of storm warning area 175 km (95 NM)
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Typhoon

#67 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:35 am

An eye has popped out, be ready for a sharp increase in satellite estimates! I'm putting this at 115-120 mph.
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Typhoon

#68 Postby doomhaMwx » Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:40 am

Eye trying to clear out between 15N-16N. 06Z GFS further adjusted south and now has landfall over Polillo Island, however, Noru appears to be now moving W instead of WSW on satellite loops. GFS would only verify if the eye dips further to 15N. Let's see.

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Re: WPAC: NORU - Typhoon

#69 Postby Hayabusa » Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:53 am

18W NORU 220924 1200 15.6N 126.0E WPAC 70 982


T2216(Noru)
Issued at 2022/09/24 12:45 UTC
Analysis at 09/24 12 UTC
Grade TY
Scale -
Intensity -
Center position N15°30′ (15.5°)
E126°00′ (126.0°)
Direction and speed of movement WSW 15 km/h (9 kt)
Central pressure 975 hPa
Maximum sustained wind speed near center 35 m/s (70 kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 50 m/s (100 kt)
Radius of 50-kt wind area 75 km (40 NM)
Radius of 30-kt wind area SW280 km (150 NM)
NE220 km (120 NM)
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Typhoon

#70 Postby mrbagyo » Sat Sep 24, 2022 8:10 am

revised?

18W NORU 220924 1200 15.6N 126.0E WPAC 75 979
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Typhoon

#71 Postby underthwx » Sat Sep 24, 2022 8:11 am

Hello everyone!....I have noticed the track of Noru shift southward, and the cyclone looking better organized. I have family in Metro Manila, and Igbarras areas. Can you provide me with expected conditions in these areas? If I'm correct, the track started in the Northern part of the Philippines, and it seems to have been adjusted closer to Manila, with each run?.....Thanks for any info yall.
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Typhoon

#72 Postby underthwx » Sat Sep 24, 2022 8:15 am

Iceresistance wrote:An eye has popped out, be ready for a sharp increase in satellite estimates! I'm putting this at 115-120 mph.


JTWC expected NORU to attain minimal typhoon strength prior to landfall, but these wind speeds are higher than the intensity estimates I read about last night, as well as the track appearing to have been adjusted sothward...
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Typhoon

#73 Postby doomhaMwx » Sat Sep 24, 2022 8:28 am

underthwx wrote:Hello everyone!....I have noticed the track of Noru shift southward, and the cyclone looking better organized. I have family in Metro Manila, and Igbarras areas. Can you provide me with expected conditions in these areas? If I'm correct, the track started in the Northern part of the Philippines, and it seems to have been adjusted closer to Manila, with each run?.....Thanks for any info yall.

Metro Metro Manila is now under signal #2 from PAGASA as of 8pm local time. Not sure if they'd raise it further to #3 (I guess it depends if the track adjusts more south). Flooding might be an issue as well. Good thing is that Noru is small-sized and should move across Luzon quickly.
You can check PAGASA's bulletins for more info.
https://www.pagasa.dost.gov.ph/tropical ... r-bulletin
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Typhoon

#74 Postby mrbagyo » Sat Sep 24, 2022 8:31 am

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Re: WPAC: NORU - Typhoon

#75 Postby mrbagyo » Sat Sep 24, 2022 9:28 am

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Re: WPAC: NORU - Typhoon

#76 Postby Hayabusa » Sat Sep 24, 2022 9:42 am

85 kts at 25/00Z but possibly higher when it nears landfall late afternoon-evening
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WDPN32 PGTW 241500
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR TYPHOON 18W (NORU) WARNING NR 011//
RMKS/
1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.

SUMMARY:
INITIAL POSITION: 15.6N 126.0E
INITIAL INTENSITY: 75 KTS
GEOGRAPHIC REFERENCE: 296 NM NORTHEAST OF MANILA, PHILIPPINES
MOVEMENT PAST 6 HOURS: WEST-SOUTHWESTWARD AT 09 KTS
SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT: 24 FEET

SATELLITE ANALYSIS, INITIAL POSITION AND INTENSITY DISCUSSION:
ANIMATED ENHANCED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY (EIR) DEPICTS A SMALL
ASYMMETRIC 6NM EYE FORMING AND CLOSING AROUND THE LOW-LEVEL
CIRCULATION CENTER (LLCC), LENDING OVERALL HIGH CONFIDENCE IN THE
INITIAL POSITION. THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS ASSESSED AT 75 KNOTS
BASED ON MULTIPLE AGENCY DVORAK INTENSITY ESTIMATES AND THE ADVANCED
DVORAK TECHNIQUE (ADT) SHOWN BELOW, LENDING OVERALL HIGH CONFIDENCE.
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE VERY FAVORABLE WITH MODERATE RADIAL
OUTFLOW, ENHANCED BY AN UPPER-LOW OVER THE CONTINUES MIGRATING WEST
OVER THE SOUTH CHINA SEA, AND LOW VERTICAL WIND SHEAR (VWS).

INITIAL WIND RADII BASIS: OBJECTIVE BEST TRACK

CURRENT STEERING MECHANISM: SOUTHERN PERIPHERY OF THE DEEP-LAYERED
SUBTROPICAL RIDGE (STR) POSITIONED TO THE NORTH.

AGENCY DVORAK AND AUTOMATED FIXES:
PGTW: T4.5 - 77 KTS
RJTD: T4.5 - 77 KTS
KNES: T5.0 - 90 KTS
CIMSS ADT: 74 KTS AT 241140Z

FORECASTER ASSESSMENT OF CURRENT ENVIRONMENT: HIGHLY FAVORABLE
VWS: 0-5 KTS
SST: 29-30 CELSIUS
OUTFLOW: MODERATE RADIAL

ANALYSIS CONFIDENCE:
INITIAL POSITION: HIGH
INITIAL INTENSITY: HIGH
INITIAL WIND RADII: LOW

3. FORECAST REASONING.

SIGNIFICANT FORECAST CHANGES: THERE ARE NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO
THE FORECAST FROM THE PREVIOUS WARNING.

FORECAST DISCUSSION: TY 18W BEGAN SHOWING SIGNS OF RAPID
INTENSIFICATION AS IT CONTINUES TRACKING WEST-SOUTHWEST TOWARDS
LUZON. THE FAVORABLE CONDITIONS WITH THE IMPROVED OUTFLOW ARE
ALLOWING FURTHER DEVELOPMENT TO A NEW PEAK INTENSITY OF 85 KNOTS
BEFORE MAKING LANDFALL NEAR CAPE ENCANTO, PHILIPPINES. THE LAND
INTERACTION WILL CAUSE A BRIEF DECREASE IN INTENSITY BEFORE THE
SYSTEM REEMERGES OVER THE VERY WARM WATERS OF THE SOUTH CHINA SEA.
BY TAU 48 THE SYSTEM WILL QUICKLY RE-INTENSIFY BACK TO TYPHOON
STRENGTH ALONG ITS WESTWARD TRACK TOWARDS VIETNAM AND SOUTHEAST
ASIA. BETWEEN TAUS 48 AND 72 THE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY EXISTS FOR THE
SYSTEM TO UNDERGO RAPID INTENSIFICATION (RI) WITH TY NORU. THE
SYSTEM IS DUE TO MAKE ANOTHER PEAK INTENSITY OF 90 KNOTS JUST
BEFORE MAKING SECONDARY LANDFALL, NEAR DA NANG, VIETNAM. RAPID
WEAKENING WILL OCCUR ONCE THE SYSTEM TRACKS OVER SOUTHEAST ASIA.

MODEL DISCUSSION: NUMERICAL MODEL GUIDANCE REMAINS IN TIGHT
AGREEMENT THROUGH THE FORECAST PERIOD WITH A MERE 50NM SPREAD OUT
THROUGH 72 HOURS, LENDING HIGH CONFIDENCE TO THE JTWC FORECAST
TRACK. AFTER THE SYSTEM MAKES SECONDARY LANDFALL THE MODEL TRACK
GUIDANCE SPREADS GREATLY DUE TO THE LAND INTERACTION, LOWERING THE
JTWC TRACK CONFIDENCE BEYOND TAU 72. THE INTENSITY GUIDANCE
CAPTURED THE INITIAL RI, WITH COAMPS-TC AND HWRF MAXING OUT AT 100
KNOTS BEFORE THE SYSTEM MAKES INITIAL LANDFALL ON LUZON. AFTER THE
INITIAL LANDFALL INTERACTION, THERE IS A SECONDARY RI POTENTIAL
OVER THE SOUTH CHINA SEA WITH COAMPS-TC ONCE AGAIN MAXING OUT AT
110 KNOTS AND HWRF SLIGHTLY LOWER AT 95 KNOTS, LENDING OVERALL
MEDIUM CONFIDENCE WITH THE JTWC INTENSITY FORECAST.

FORECAST CONFIDENCE:
TRACK 0 - 72 HR: HIGH
TRACK 72-120 HR: LOW
INTENSITY 0 - 72 HR: MEDIUM
INTENSITY 72-120 HR: MEDIUM//
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Typhoon

#77 Postby aspen » Sat Sep 24, 2022 10:05 am

This is probably much stronger than 75 kt. Once again, the JTWC struggles with small systems undergoing RI/ERI. Noru could be a major at landfall, or maybe already is a major.
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Typhoon

#78 Postby underthwx » Sat Sep 24, 2022 10:20 am

I apologize for this off-topic questiom, I noticed Invest 96W to the east of NORU, I wonder what the potential track/intensity estimates are in these early stages of any development? To stay on topic for NORU, I will await a thread on 96W.....it appears as if the WPAC region's activity is getting busy unfortunately my friends...I had hoped it would remain a quieter season there, as well as the Atlantic basins activity.....thankyou!
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Typhoon

#79 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Sat Sep 24, 2022 10:29 am

Instincts were right... the earlier runs panning out but worse. Hope this doesn't go even further south. Not gonna rule out a cat 4. Reminds me of tracking that very storm that killed our home given how it's defied and will defy expectations (hint: Rhymes with Kai). Looking like both a rain and wind event.

If there's anything "good", this will move fast and is pretty compact.
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Re: WPAC: NORU - Typhoon

#80 Postby Hayabusa » Sat Sep 24, 2022 10:48 am

underthwx wrote:I apologize for this off-topic questiom, I noticed Invest 96W to the east of NORU, I wonder what the potential track/intensity estimates are in these early stages of any development? To stay on topic for NORU, I will await a thread on 96W.....it appears as if the WPAC region's activity is getting busy unfortunately my friends...I had hoped it would remain a quieter season there, as well as the Atlantic basins activity.....thankyou!

Models have it as a fish storm, or only affecting the Marianas
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