ATL: SANDY - Recon Discussion

[Evil Jeremy]

I've got it Dave!

are you gonna get images as well for the AF flight, right?

Sure, I can take images for the AF flight.

[Dave]

I've got it Dave!

Thanks Jeremy, see ya'all tomorrow night from a different location...my home...and my main system!

[artist]

Dave, get some rest.

[Dave]

Dave, get some rest.

Yes mom!...but I want a cookie first!

[artist]

Dave, get some rest.

Yes mom!...but I want a cookie first!

ok, since you've been good!

[artist]

AF309 hasn't transmitted in awhile.

[Hey Its Me]

AF309 hasn't transmitted in awhile.

Looks like they had to turn back?



Product: Air Force Tropical RECCO Message (URNT11 KNHC)
Transmitted: 25th day of the month at 22:22Z
Aircraft: Air Force Aircraft (Last 3 digits of the tail number are 309)
Storm Number: 18
Storm Name: Sandy (flight in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 8
Observation Number: 05

Mandatory Data...

Observation Time: Thursday, 22:03Z
Radar Capability: Yes
Aircraft Altitude: Below 10,000 meters
Coordinates: 29.1N 87.0W
Location: 93 miles (150 km) to the S (172°) from Pensacola, FL, USA.
Turbulence: None
Conditions Along Flight Route: In the clear
Pressure Altitude: 6,710 meters
Flight Level Wind: From 360° at 19 knots (From the N at ~ 21.8 mph)
- The above is a spot wind.
- Winds were obtained using doppler radar or inertial systems.
Flight Level Temperature: -18°C
Flight Level Dew Point: Not available, probably because the dew point hygrometer was not working.
Weather (within 30 nautical miles): Broken clouds (5/8 to 7/8 cloud coverage)
D-value: 28 geopotential meters

Remarks Section...

Mission Status: Concluded (Last Report)

[artist]

AF309 hasn't transmitted in awhile.

Looks like they had to turn back?



Product: Air Force Tropical RECCO Message (URNT11 KNHC)
Transmitted: 25th day of the month at 22:22Z
Aircraft: Air Force Aircraft (Last 3 digits of the tail number are 309)
Storm Number: 18
Storm Name: Sandy (flight in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 8
Observation Number: 05

Mandatory Data...

Observation Time: Thursday, 22:03Z
Radar Capability: Yes
Aircraft Altitude: Below 10,000 meters
Coordinates: 29.1N 87.0W
Location: 93 miles (150 km) to the S (172°) from Pensacola, FL, USA.
Turbulence: None
Conditions Along Flight Route: In the clear
Pressure Altitude: 6,710 meters
Flight Level Wind: From 360° at 19 knots (From the N at ~ 21.8 mph)
- The above is a spot wind.
- Winds were obtained using doppler radar or inertial systems.
Flight Level Temperature: -18°C
Flight Level Dew Point: Not available, probably because the dew point hygrometer was not working.
Weather (within 30 nautical miles): Broken clouds (5/8 to 7/8 cloud coverage)
D-value: 28 geopotential meters

Remarks Section...

Mission Status: Concluded (Last Report)

ah! Thanks for catching that.

[CrazyC83]

It's all in the hands of the NOAA P-3 now. I'd say the intensity is down to 70 kt given the data, although I doubt they will drop it that much right away.

[CrazyC83]

AF305 on the runway as a replacement plane.

[artist]

AF305 on the runway as a replacement plane.

great! Can you or Jeremy pick up the images for me for about an hour? And then when I come back I can take one of the flights.

[Hey Its Me]

AF305 on the runway as a replacement plane.

Now in the air!

[Evil Jeremy]

Ive got graphics and data

[weatherSnoop]

any graphics I can help with? I am not up to date

[artist]

any graphics I can help with? I am not up to date

thanks for the offer. You can see if your google earth is loading correctly. Mine isn't. Points are all mixed up for the NOAA flight.

[Chris_in_Tampa]

The NOAA points being in the wrong order is not a problem on your end. It's kind of a problem on my end. NOAA HDOB messages are coming in, as they have been recently, with a different date than they used to after midnight Zulu. After midnight Zulu, the date stamp it had just before, 20121025, is supposed to change to the next day, 20121026. Notice how the AF HDOBs do that. But, NOAA's does not any more. (I'm not really sure if that is an error or that is simply how they do it now.) That confuses my system. I'll manually adjust it later. For now I am considering how to fix that "error" in real time. Things might get a little buggy in a little bit.

[weatherSnoop]

Thanks Chris...I shall wait it out

[artist]

The NOAA points being in the wrong order is not a problem on your end. It's kind of a problem on my end. NOAA HDOB messages are coming in, as they have been recently, with a different date than they used to after midnight Zulu. After midnight Zulu, the date stamp it had just before, 20121025, is supposed to change to the next day, 20121026. Notice how the AF HDOBs do that. But, NOAA's does not any more. (I'm not really sure if that is an error or that is simply how they do it now.) That confuses my system. I'll manually adjust it later. For now I am considering how to fix that error in real time. Things might get a little buggy in a little bit.

it is already buggy for me Chris. lol The points all intersect, etc. Will see you pic in pm so you can see what I am talking about. The AF flight is fine - just not the NOAA one.

[Chris_in_Tampa]

Yep, that is how the problem I mentioned presents.

My site organizes HDOBs by the time of the first ob.

How it should happen and appear on my site:

OB 24: 20121025 23:54:00Z
OB 25: 20121026 00:04:00Z

How the NOAA obs are actually coming across:

OB 24: 20121025 23:54:00Z
OB 25: 20121025 00:04:00Z

That places that 25th ob on my site before all the other obs, 1 through 24, on the site because my site thinks that the ob came across 24 hours earlier.

See the drop down list on this page:
http://www.tropicalatlantic.com/recon/a ... mission=07

And you can see how my site is incorrectly treating everything after that 24th ob. (Note the dates.) I'll fix it later tonight. I just need to think about how I want to actually fix it.

[artist]

Yep, that is how the problem I mentioned presents.

My site organizes HDOBs by the time of the first ob.

How it should happen and appear on my site:

OB 24: 20121025 23:54:00Z
OB 25: 20121026 00:04:00Z

How the NOAA obs are actually coming across:

OB 24: 20121025 23:54:00Z
OB 25: 20121025 00:04:00Z

That places that 25th ob on my site before all the other obs, 1 through 24, on the site because my site thinks that the ob came across 24 hours earlier.

See the drop down list on this page:
http://www.tropicalatlantic.com/recon/a ... mission=07

And you can see how my site is incorrectly treating everything after that 24th ob. (Note the dates.) I'll fix it later tonight. I just need to think about how I want to actually fix it.

oh what fun! Glad its you and not me! But what would we do without ya, Chris! Did you get my pm with the pic?