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#1441 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:05 am

tolakram wrote:
Weatherfreak000 wrote:NHC track expected it to move WNW and its just not happening...same with models...only EURO shows due west.


What are you looking at that shows due west movement? Recon fixes show WNW and the history line shows this as well.

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they show 280 which is west. but not "due" west.
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#1442 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:05 am

wxwatcher1999 wrote:
Weatherfreak000 wrote:NHC track expected it to move WNW and its just not happening...same with models...only EURO shows due west.



I was just looking at that too...I think models will shift dramatically west today

At this point everything the EURO has shown has been validated. If the storm died out today you'd have to think EURO won the war. I think I'm drinking the koolaid now rock lol
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1443 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:05 am

Last recon fixes (looks more dramatic than it is due to wobbles and inexact fixes)

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#1444 Postby Jevo » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:09 am

Weatherfreak000 wrote:NHC track expected it to move WNW and its just not happening...same with models...only EURO shows due west.


I see slight N component, not sure if it's WNW though Was 270 @ 5am now 280
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#1445 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:09 am

I'm not convinced the models will shift that much west, so far this system has been tracking a little north of where the models have been expecting, that tells me the mid level ridge maybe just a touch overdone.

I think this one will hit Hispaniola, I really can't see any way this one misses at the moment, if it does miss, IMO it'll be to the north not the south.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1446 Postby ConvergenceZone » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:10 am

I agree with what a couple of other posters have said. The lack of intensification only means that there's a greater chance of it avoiding all the major island land massess all together now, which would mean much more intensification once it gets
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#1447 Postby psyclone » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:14 am

Weatherfreak000 wrote:I lost count of the amount of storms expected to strengthen in the graveyard that didn't. Yes there have been THAT MANY. If your on the NGOM watch models this morning trend is west....we won't have as much time before NHC sounds alarm best be prepared for anything.

the five day end point is near the southwest coast of florida. if the storm veers west toward the northern gulf coast that would probably be 7 or 8 days out so suggesting you won't have as much time at this point is just not accurate. even if the NHC was leaning to a NGOM solution it would take awhile before the 5 day point touched the shore. for those stateside, it's just too soon to do anything other than monitor the storm, which, by the way, appears to be continuing to struggle.

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#1448 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:14 am

280 track from now on takes it just south of Hispaniola, but only just...290 takes it just north of the island.

Anything in between takes it through and I suspect a long term average it'll be inbetween that figure.
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#1449 Postby robbielyn » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:16 am

what affect would td10 cause on isaac's track? would it cause it to go more on a westward track fujiwara effect or is it too far away to have any impact?
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#1450 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:17 am

I remember something similar happening with Irene last year, that was expected to go south and that ended up going over the islands rather than under, I've got just a sneaking feeling this may do the same.

Conversly, I do still think this goes into the gulf, not sure it'll curve up as soon as the models think.
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#1451 Postby Jevo » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:17 am

Weatherfreak000 wrote:
wxwatcher1999 wrote:
Weatherfreak000 wrote:NHC track expected it to move WNW and its just not happening...same with models...only EURO shows due west.



I was just looking at that too...I think models will shift dramatically west today

At this point everything the EURO has shown has been validated. If the storm died out today you'd have to think EURO won the war. I think I'm drinking the koolaid now rock lol


Until this thing verifies out just remember who still holds the crown this season

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Seriously though back to Isaac.. Sorry mods I couldnt resist
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#1452 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:20 am

I still think the EURO is a bit too far WEST and the GFS is a bit too far EAST. I think this RIDES along the WEST coast of FL or just into the EGOM and makes landfall near the big bend of FL. *moving North*
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#1453 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:20 am

Jevo wrote:
Weatherfreak000 wrote:NHC track expected it to move WNW and its just not happening...same with models...only EURO shows due west.


I see slight N component, not sure if it's WNW though Was 270 @ 5am now 280

Actually sir you are. 48 hours ago nhc said it would be at 16.2 :wink: if your point is NHC will adjust track I'd say that's obvious
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#1454 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:21 am

deltadog03 wrote:I still think the EURO is a bit too far WEST and the GFS is a bit too far EAST. I think this RIDES along the WEST coast of FL or just into the EGOM and makes landfall near the big bend of FL. *moving North*


sounds about right.
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#1455 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:22 am

deltadog03 wrote:I still think the EURO is a bit too far WEST and the GFS is a bit too far EAST. I think this RIDES along the WEST coast of FL or just into the EGOM and makes landfall near the big bend of FL. *moving North*


Yep I agree, the other thing people need to remember is just because it heads a little north or south of the current track that doesn't mean it'll stay, it'd only take 12hrs longer of WNW track to easily make up any slightly more northern motion over the next few hours than the models expect.
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#1456 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:26 am

deltadog03 wrote:I still think the EURO is a bit too far WEST and the GFS is a bit too far EAST. I think this RIDES along the WEST coast of FL or just into the EGOM and makes landfall near the big bend of FL. *moving North*


If this rides up the west coast of florida it would put all most of south florida on the dirty side of what might be a dangerous storm at the time.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1457 Postby wxman76 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:26 am

I too like a track between the GFS and EURO, but I'm not ready to completely throw out the EURO. Also convection now firing again on the Eastern Side of the storm.
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#1458 Postby Vortex » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:26 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
deltadog03 wrote:I still think the EURO is a bit too far WEST and the GFS is a bit too far EAST. I think this RIDES along the WEST coast of FL or just into the EGOM and makes landfall near the big bend of FL. *moving North*


sounds about right.



Also thinking same...
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1459 Postby Javlin » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:32 am

well it looks like or ULL to the NE is imparting something on the system if anything imparting some dry air possibily.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/flash-wv.html
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#1460 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:34 am

Isaac hasn't gained as much latitude as expected so the nhc will have to keep shifting. How long will this continue? .7 degrees south of forecast two days ago is substantial. Think about it
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