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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1481 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:26 am

I don't see the center exposed. Microwave is showing a strong circulation. Given the forecast environment, favorable conditions are ahead

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#1482 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:27 am

Ernesto continues to fire convection over its center despite moving at over 20 mph. Its partial eyewall is probably slowly building.

Doing better than Colin or Ophelia..that's for sure.

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#1483 Postby RL3AO » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:27 am

Guys its doing exactly as expected. Keeping enough convection around a well defined circulation. Lets see what it does in 48 hours.
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#1484 Postby Rgv20 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:29 am

Looking at the 0zECMWF Ensemble Control Run it has Ernesto making landfall near Tampico, Mx by Friday Evening.
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#1485 Postby PTrackerLA » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:31 am

12z GFS barely even making it into the BOC now and keeps it very weak. Starting to have a hard time believing the dynamical models making this a hurricane in the western carib and moving NW.
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#1486 Postby ROCK » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:33 am

PTrackerLA wrote:12z GFS barely even making it into the BOC now and keeps it very weak. Starting to have a hard time believing the dynamical models making this a hurricane in the western carib and moving NW.



I think its seeing the forward speed thus keeping it weak....but it is the GFS and I am not going there this time around... :D
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1487 Postby GCANE » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:35 am

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ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1488 Postby greenkat » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:38 am

Looks like the same story as Tomas so far...
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1489 Postby GCANE » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:38 am

That 200mb PV anomaly is still dead ahead.

LLC could take a hit as it gets closer.

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/w ... oom=&time=
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1490 Postby ozonepete » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:39 am



But that's ok. Weak and moderate TSs often don't have them. As long as the convection is venting, even if unevenly, it should maintain until it reaches a better environment. At that point, as you know, it will usually build its own - it doesn't have to move under an existing one.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1491 Postby ConvergenceZone » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:42 am

I do notice that the NHC backed off of the "major hurricane" wording they had in last night's discussion...
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1492 Postby ROCK » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:44 am

ConvergenceZone wrote:I do notice that the NHC backed off of the "major hurricane" wording they had in last night's discussion...



lack of model support most likely. I wouldnt rule out anything at this point...
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1493 Postby GCANE » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:44 am

ozonepete wrote:


But that's ok. Weak and moderate TSs often don't have them. As long as the convection is venting, even if unevenly, it should maintain until it reaches a better environment. At that point, as you know, it will usually build its own - it doesn't have to move under an existing one.


A good hot-tower always does wonders for building one.
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#1494 Postby PTrackerLA » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:47 am

ROCK wrote:
PTrackerLA wrote:12z GFS barely even making it into the BOC now and keeps it very weak. Starting to have a hard time believing the dynamical models making this a hurricane in the western carib and moving NW.



I think its seeing the forward speed thus keeping it weak....but it is the GFS and I am not going there this time around... :D


If the 12z Euro holds serve, well, it's hard to go against the two best global models here.
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#1495 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:48 am

My forecast for Ernesto:

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It's more in line with the LGEM, SHIPS, and other statistical models which show rapid intensification after the same enters the NW Caribbean. I believe a stronger strong will tend to move more poleward and feel the "tug" of the trough that should be located over the East USA at that time.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1496 Postby GCANE » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:50 am

Going to be moving over a nice pool of high OHC water in about 24 hrs.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/product ... 031200.GIF
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1497 Postby ROCK » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:52 am

I always like this map.....

http://wxmaps.org/pix/hurpot.html#ATL


you can see that pool there Gcane...
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1498 Postby tolakram » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:53 am

This is what I meant by exposed ... aka I can see it. :) Looks like a dry air problem more than a shear problem, but this was 2 hours ago.

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1499 Postby ConvergenceZone » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:01 pm

ROCK wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:I do notice that the NHC backed off of the "major hurricane" wording they had in last night's discussion...



lack of model support most likely. I wouldnt rule out anything at this point...



Yea, I'm not as bullish on the development of Ernesto as I was last night, but I do think
it will still become a cat 1 hurricane before all is said and done, whether it's in the western carib or western gulf...It's going through some problems now, but once it gets into the western carib it should start to strengthen again.
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#1500 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:05 pm

If 91L develops in the Bahamas, it will be interesting to see if it will influence the track of Ernesto....thoughts?
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