ATL: ISAAC - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1581 Postby wxman57 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:45 pm

Center relocation/reformation farther south not out of the realm of possibility. West of Florida track looking more likely. My gut may be right.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1582 Postby Houstonia » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:46 pm

Jeff Lindner (Harris County Flood Control District):

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...Forecast for the weekend is fairly summer like with highs in the 90’s and lows in the upper 70’s as the area comes back under the influence of the Gulf air mass. Afternoon thunderstorms on the seabreeze will be possible.

Into next week, will need to keep at least one eye on the track of Isaac as ECMWF model is fairly far to the left and would bring impacts this way, while the GFS and other global guidance keep the system over FL/east Gulf/west Atlantic. GFS has been performing very well this season in the tropics so hard to go against its thinking, but the ECMWF has been the best model over the past few years.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1583 Postby HurricaneBrain » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:48 pm

wxman57 wrote:Center relocation/reformation farther south not out of the realm of possibility. West of Florida track looking more likely. My gut may be right.

How far west are you thinking? GFS or Euro's current solution?
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1584 Postby psyclone » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:50 pm

wxman57 wrote:Center relocation/reformation farther south not out of the realm of possibility. West of Florida track looking more likely. My gut may be right.

You still thinking panhandle? that seems reasonable based on current trends.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1585 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:50 pm

wxman57 wrote:Center relocation/reformation farther south not out of the realm of possibility. West of Florida track looking more likely. My gut may be right.


it is possible. southern one is still weaker atm though. it is however imbedded in the convection.
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#1586 Postby tropicwatch » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:51 pm

Off Topic

Anbody else have trouble connecting with the NHC website?
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#1587 Postby wxwatcher1999 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:53 pm

My thinking is if Isaac gets as far west and shoots the yucatan channel the western gulf coast will be in play for landfall
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1588 Postby tgenius » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:58 pm

The old adage of weak, unorganized keeping west versus stronger moving poleword looks like it may be holding true again. At the rate it's going we may not even get rain in Miami from this.. pretty crazy.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1589 Postby Bocadude85 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:58 pm

wxman57 wrote:Center relocation/reformation farther south not out of the realm of possibility. West of Florida track looking more likely. My gut may be right.



Good news for those of us in S.Fla then.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1590 Postby ROCK » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:59 pm

tgenius wrote:The old adage of weak, unorganized keeping west versus stronger moving poleword looks like it may be holding true again. At the rate it's going we may not even get rain in Miami from this.. pretty crazy.



thats why you follow the cone and not the line.... :wink:
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#1591 Postby adam0983 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:01 pm

Why is everything based on the Euro. When all the other models show the Storm near Florida.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1592 Postby jabman98 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:01 pm

tgenius wrote:The old adage of weak, unorganized keeping west versus stronger moving poleword looks like it may be holding true again. At the rate it's going we may not even get rain in Miami from this.. pretty crazy.


May prove the old theory that the safest place to be five days out is in the cone. :lol:

I'm not very happy about a continuing westward track. Ugh. Just what we need.
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#1593 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:01 pm

looks to me like center reformation is a real possibility. It looks to me now that the main rotation center is trying to set up right around 15N 60W, which is consistent with what wxman57 said. On top of that shear looks like its definitely in the process of backing off, as outflow really appears to improving in my opinion. Dry air still seems present but looks to be mixing its way out atm.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1594 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:02 pm

wxman57 wrote:Center relocation/reformation farther south not out of the realm of possibility. West of Florida track looking more likely. My gut may be right.


100% Agreed!
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1595 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:02 pm

adam0983 wrote:Why is everything based on the Euro. When all the other models show the Storm near Florida.


its not. its just one model but it typically does better than most of the models besides the gfs. the two heavy weights are the euro and gfs.
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#1596 Postby wxwatcher1999 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:04 pm

Does anyone think the Nhc will move the forecasted track more to the left at the next update?
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1597 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:04 pm

deltadog03 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Center relocation/reformation farther south not out of the realm of possibility. West of Florida track looking more likely. My gut may be right.


100% Agreed!


check out the wind direction from recon as its heading north on the east side of both circs. ... it appears to quickly be changing in favor of the southern vort.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1598 Postby ROCK » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:05 pm

man its got some issues right now...2 vorts....if this does reform further south you can just about throw all the current model runs in the trash can....well except for the EURO... :lol:
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1599 Postby Wx_Warrior » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:05 pm

adam0983 wrote:Why is everything based on the Euro. When all the other models show the Storm near Florida.


No one said that. It's the model that just ran, so it's the model we are discussing.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1600 Postby wxwatcher1999 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:06 pm

ROCK wrote:man its got some issues right now...2 vorts....if this does reform further south you can just about throw all the current model runs in the trash can....well except for the EURO... :lol:


If the center does reform south would that cause a more westerly movement?
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