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#2641 Postby SunnyThoughts » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:30 pm

wxwatcher1999 wrote:am i wrong for thinking isaac may miss hispaniola all together to the west?

Looks that way to me too, but whatta I know? It even looks as though it might hit Jamaica if it doesn't start more of a northward turn to me. I never trust myself looking at the sat's and movement though.
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#2642 Postby WilmingtonSandbar » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:30 pm

Granted the NAM is not a very good model to track, but it is generally good on synoptics. After looking at the new NAM run with the G-IV run in it, I am getting a wicked feeling about the east coast of Florida. I am expecting a shift back to the east on the runs, and the 5am NHC to shift east again also.
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#2643 Postby Shuriken » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:32 pm

Tops approaching -90C just west of the mid-level center in the notch of the "yellow Lima bean":

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#2644 Postby summersquall » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:34 pm

wxwatcher1999 wrote:am i wrong for thinking isaac may miss hispaniola all together to the west?


I don't know whether you're wrong for thinking that but when I watch the longer loops, I don't see much of a northerly component to Isaac's motion and the more southern center pt. looks more probable. But, I am a rank amateur storm groupie.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2645 Postby boca » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:35 pm

stormgeek wrote:Local news here in Miami just stated they expect watches to go up tomorrow for the southeast coast of florida and the gfl is showing a strike on the southeast mainland through the state and out into the gulf.


50 miles north of you the west palm met says weere prety much in the clear.
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#2646 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:37 pm

latest loop. just exploding. both the mlc and vorts are now just about all encompassed under the cdo will its finally consolidate is the question.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... -long.html
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#2647 Postby wxman76 » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:38 pm

Again this question revolves around where you think the center is. If you take the NHC center then I think it clips SW Haiti, maybe. If you take the Green Dot center (just west of the yellow Lima bean) I think it misses too. I have to agree I can't see much of a poleward shift, and for the NAM to verify with the green dot center it has to turn to 315 degrees (NW) to make the channel. Just don't see it. Maybe 280 maybe.
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#2648 Postby Blown Away » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:40 pm

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wxwatcher1999 wrote:am i wrong for thinking isaac may miss hispaniola all together to the west?

Heck, to me it looks like Isaac won't miss Dominican Republic.

This is not an official forecast and should not be used for any purpose except for entertainment.
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#2649 Postby summersquall » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:42 pm

According to the "How close can it get?" tool on the Storm Carib website http://stormcarib.com/ ..
Results for 27.3N, 80.2W:
The approximate Closest Point of Approach (CPA) is located near 25.1N, 82.3W or about 203.5 miles (327.4 km) from your location. The estimated time of when the center of the storm will be at that location is in about 3 days, 1 hours and 41 minutes from now (Monday, August 27 at 1:18AM AST).

But, that's based on the current projected path so it's as good as the projected path is accurate.
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#2650 Postby JPmia » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:42 pm

wxwatcher1999 wrote:am i wrong for thinking isaac may miss hispaniola all together to the west?

Heck, to me it looks like Isaac won't miss Dominican Republic.

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Well if that is the case then he will some taller mountains to contend with and that is not good for those poor folks in Haiti
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#2651 Postby Shuriken » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:42 pm

Whatever happened to the radars in the Dominican Republic and Haiti? (They used to work two years ago, give or take.)
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#2652 Postby ozonepete » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:44 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:latest loop. just exploding. both the mlc and vorts are now just about all encompassed under the cdo will its finally consolidate is the question.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... -long.html


Wow yeah, I see it. And if this keeps up, then I was wrong earlier. It will consolidate more to the south. Could miss most of the DR and Haiti.

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#2653 Postby JamesCaneTracker » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:44 pm

Blown Away wrote:
wxwatcher1999 wrote:am i wrong for thinking isaac may miss hispaniola all together to the west?

Heck, to me it looks like Isaac won't miss Dominican Republic.

This is not an official forecast and should not be used for any purpose except for entertainment.


Rock, put that IR into motion... That's not the way that blob is moving... It's rotating around. In the latest loop it shows it moving south of west.
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#2654 Postby Texashawk » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:44 pm

To me it still looks like:

a) the northern vort is being drawn into the southwest mass that is exploding with a super-cold CDO, which would bring the center yet again to a 15 degree lat and play havoc with the models
b) the entire structure is certainly not moving at a 290 motion - more like 270-275
c) Jamaica is definately in play for a strike
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2655 Postby cycloneye » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:45 pm

New Mircowave. There is the center.

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#2656 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:48 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:latest loop. just exploding. both the mlc and vorts are now just about all encompassed under the cdo will its finally consolidate is the question.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... -long.html


consolidation just in time to run into land tomorrow and we get to do this all over again saturday
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#2657 Postby WilmingtonSandbar » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:48 pm

Shuriken wrote:Whatever happened to the radars in the Dominican Republic and Haiti? (They used to work two years ago, give or take.)



Might have something to do with that earthquake they had and not having the time to keep up with the radar? Just guessing here.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2658 Postby Texashawk » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:48 pm

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First time in a looooooong time I've seen those colors on this imagery... especially with a low-end tropical storm!!! :eek:
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2659 Postby Blinhart » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:58 pm

Is it possible, that land interaction might actually help Isaac consolidate and really get his act together. Whether it is with the Dominican Republic, Cuba, or Jamaica. If I remember correctly some storms have gotten their shape better with a little land friction.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2660 Postby stormgeek » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:59 pm

boca wrote:
stormgeek wrote:Local news here in Miami just stated they expect watches to go up tomorrow for the southeast coast of florida and the gfl is showing a strike on the southeast mainland through the state and out into the gulf.


50 miles north of you the west palm met says weere prety much in the clear.


Reading the model threads, some are indicating a shift to the east with the air force data included. Should be an interesting 5 am advisory!
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