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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5321 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:29 pm

SoupBone wrote:I've asked a few times but can someone please post a link to a loop that shows the trough and its movement. Thanks.


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/eaus/loop-wv.html
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5322 Postby mahi1720 » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:30 pm

mahi1720 wrote:
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mahi1720 wrote:Give it a few hrs. and you're gonna see an eyewall. It's about to bomb out. This reminds me of Charley.



What evidence do you have to support your prediction?

I can't state with 100% assurance but I do know we are in the peak of hurricane season, the water is hot and the Gulf of Mexico has had some hurricanes in the past. The conditions are pretty good. What evidence do you have that its not going to bomb?

Don't really want to get into a Jr. High peeing match but if you look at the last few frames of satellite, the convection has exploded. The low(I think) will probably reform under that central dense overcast. Not a whole lot of shear to tear him up, a lot has been made about the dry air but its moving away from that. Look back at some satellite loops of past storms in the GOM. I might be wrong and I truly hope I am but I lived in Florida for 16 yrs and I've had it blow 130 at my house so I kinda try to keep an eye out.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5323 Postby boca » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:30 pm

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#5324 Postby tallywx » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:32 pm

Senobia wrote:Updated 'action zones', from TWC:

http://i45.tinypic.com/28l3v4z.jpg


This is without a doubt the single most worthless graphic I've seen in all my years of following the tropics. TWC should be ashamed at putting out such drivel. I commiserate with the poor folks in Tallahassee, FL taking "action" right now re this storm per TWC's graphic, or someone in Bainbridge, GA being on alert...
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5325 Postby Shawee » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:32 pm

Camille(CaneOnAPill) wrote:Could the upper level low to Isaac southwest, the ridge to its northeast, and trough sinking down from the north together be causing isaac to slow down all of a sudden?


Good point (ink to illustrate: http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/flash-wv.html). To me (untrained eye) it looks like those two features would help nudge him up a bit if anything. It also looks like some of the moisture is getting pulled off towards the east coast. those factors and the dry air don't make me see "bomb" in the next 24 hours and a lean towards the european solution.

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#5326 Postby ozonepete » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:33 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:recon did another pass. it barely moved in the last 45 min I think about 10 miles. lol


That comes out to 13 mph, no?
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5327 Postby Nicko999 » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:34 pm

Hopefully we get some of the remnants of this storm... we need rain BADLY!!!
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#5328 Postby monicaei » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:36 pm

tallywx wrote:
Senobia wrote:Updated 'action zones', from TWC:

[img]http://i45.tinypic.com/28l3v4z.jpg

This is without a doubt the single most worthless graphic I've seen in all my years of following the tropics. TWC should be ashamed at putting out such drivel. I commiserate with the poor folks in Tallahassee, FL taking "action" right now re this storm per TWC's graphic, or someone in Bainbridge, GA being on alert...



Is this an NHC graphic? It looks like something the media put out. I agree, that's about the silliest thing I have ever seen.
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#5329 Postby southerngale » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:37 pm

monicaei wrote:
tallywx wrote:
Senobia wrote:Updated 'action zones', from TWC:

http://i45.tinypic.com/28l3v4z.jpg


This is without a doubt the single most worthless graphic I've seen in all my years of following the tropics. TWC should be ashamed at putting out such drivel. I commiserate with the poor folks in Tallahassee, FL taking "action" right now re this storm per TWC's graphic, or someone in Bainbridge, GA being on alert...



Is this an NHC graphic? It looks like something the media put out. I agree, that's about the silliest thing I have ever seen.

It's from The Weather Channel. Look in the lower right corner.
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#5330 Postby rainstorm » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:37 pm

i still think this can make it to a cat1 before landfall. not total pessimism.
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#5331 Postby alienstorm » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:38 pm

It has gotten a lot more windy in western dade just had a squall with easily 40 - 50 mph gusts
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5332 Postby bucman1 » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:40 pm

Aric, your point is well taken. The point here is it has slowed some and his estimate was 10 miles. which in the scheme of things is not important. The important point is will it have any effects for future tracks or just a reloading of the center for it's trip to the north gulf coast or wherever it may go.
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#5333 Postby Meteorcane » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:41 pm

alienstorm wrote:It has gotten a lot more windy in western dade just had a squall with easily 40 - 50 mph gusts



People live in Western Dade? Jk ,yeah in Kendall we have had some fringe bands bring in T.S. gusts in the last hour or so, and had arguably our heaviest rain only 2 hours ago.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5334 Postby SoupBone » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:41 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
SoupBone wrote:I've asked a few times but can someone please post a link to a loop that shows the trough and its movement. Thanks.


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/eaus/loop-wv.html


Thanks Aric. I'm having a tough time tracking its movement but it looks to be slowly making its way down.
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#5335 Postby Jevo » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:41 pm

Is it me.. Or is the NHC trying to subliminally tell us something about NOLA.........

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#5336 Postby rtd2 » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:41 pm

HurricaneQueen wrote:
Senobia wrote:Updated 'action zones', from TWC:

http://i45.tinypic.com/28l3v4z.jpg



I have been here since the beginning as an inaugural member of S2K and until the last few days have never seen this graphic. What exactly does "action" mean, please? Thanks,

And good luck and be safe to all who may be on the path of Isaac. Hopefully, he will not strengthen too much more but my thoughts will be will all of you.

We have had very little effect from this storm-moderate rain and some wind but nothing strong. Tonight and tomorrow morning are supposed to be stronger. But since he is moving west away from the coast, I am not expecting much more than we have already seen. Nice to dodge another bullet.




This imho is EVIDENCE of what happens when NBC Takes over a Weather Channel...FEAR the Graphic...simple answer===CORPORATE GARBAGE!
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#5337 Postby afswo » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:43 pm

tallywx wrote:
Senobia wrote:Updated 'action zones', from TWC:

http://i45.tinypic.com/28l3v4z.jpg


This is without a doubt the single most worthless graphic I've seen in all my years of following the tropics. TWC should be ashamed at putting out such drivel. I commiserate with the poor folks in Tallahassee, FL taking "action" right now re this storm per TWC's graphic, or someone in Bainbridge, GA being on alert...


Ever since NBC took over TWC, the quality of the data/products from the network has gone downhill. Looks great on TV, but equates to nothing!

This chart is similar to half of the "talent" on TWC in my opinion...pretty face - empty head.
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#5338 Postby bamajammer4eva » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:43 pm

tallywx wrote:
Senobia wrote:Updated 'action zones', from TWC:

[img]http://i45.tinypic.com/28l3v4z.jpg


This is without a doubt the single most worthless graphic I've seen in all my years of following the tropics. TWC should be ashamed at putting out such drivel. I commiserate with the poor folks in Tallahassee, FL taking "action" right now re this storm per TWC's graphic, or someone in Bainbridge, GA being on alert...


It does seem to be rather vague and pointless since it gives no details. However. these alert areas seem to be the same areas under Hurricane Local Statements. Bainbridge, GA is included as is all counties in the yellow color I circled in red. The red Alert areas seem to coincide with the same areas under a tropical storm or hurricane warning.

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Also, unless 7-10 inches of rain and tornadoes don't bother you it might be a good idea to at least be alert in the areas TWC mentioned.

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#5339 Postby TwisterFanatic » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:43 pm

Deep convection getting that nice round look.
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#5340 Postby Buckeye05 » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:45 pm

Satellite looks good but radar not so much. Open circulation and looks almost more than half dry, despite the blowup on satellite. Needs to improve a lot before we can attain even low hurricane intensity IMO.
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