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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5881 Postby Sanibel » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:47 am

That little eye within the big eye probably means things are going to sort out soon and intensify.


Gusty here.


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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5882 Postby wxman57 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:49 am

Not much time, busy today. My observation of Isaac this morning is that it's no stronger than yesterday. Recon and buoy reports indicate about 45-50 kts max. Though the TS winds extend out about 180-200 miles to the NE (a little above average), it will not be a HUGE storm at landfall. And if Isaac does strengthen today then those TS winds should draw in CLOSER to the center - they won't expand. Hurricane force winds (if it ever gets there) should cover a very small area NE of the center. I don't know where the media are getting this "huge hurricane" idea, it's just not the case.

Watch the estimates of center using satellite and radar, as it appears the core is tilted from south to north. Low level center is on the south side of the convection, south of where the radar indicates as it's looking WAY up above the surface.

SLOSH indicates a surge into SE LA of 5-7 ft as a cat 1, but Isaac will be a bit below-average in terms of any hurricane force wind area. This is NO Katrina.

Gotta run.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5883 Postby Blinhart » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:49 am

Sanibel wrote:That little eye within the big eye probably means things are going to sort out soon and intensify.


Gusty here.


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I was hoping I was wrong in seeing that also, I never like seeing a double eye wall, that just means that he has to be steadily intensifying.
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#5884 Postby rainstorm » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:52 am

Joe Bastardi ‏@BigJoeBastardi

That eye pops and NHC may see things the way I do about intensity. If not, then maybe I gotta come to them.

sounds like he is waivering a bit.
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#5885 Postby Janie2006 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:52 am

Another concern will be flooding along the northern Gulf Coast. QPF charts are suggesting that some areas east of the center could get 18 inches of rain, and it's already been a rainy summer in that area.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5886 Postby tolakram » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:52 am

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5887 Postby jinftl » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:53 am

Flooding in Palm Beach county where 10-12" of rain has fallen from West Palm to Boca. Training rainbands are setting up again to move over the same area now.

Wind gusts over 40 mph from Miami to West Palm still...up to 55 mph in squalls

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#5888 Postby tolakram » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:54 am

rainstorm wrote:Joe Bastardi ‏@BigJoeBastardi

That eye pops and NHC may see things the way I do about intensity. If not, then maybe I gotta come to them.

sounds like he is waivering a bit.


You are welcome to post JB tweets about Isaac, but not if he brings politics into it. I removed the first tweet. :)
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#5889 Postby wxwatcher1999 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:54 am

Is the upper Texas coast in the clear as of now?
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5890 Postby jlauderdal » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:56 am

jinftl wrote:Flooding in Palm Beach county where 10-12" of rain has fallen from West Palm to Boca. Training rainbands are setting up again to move over the same area now.

Wind gusts over 40 mph from Miami to West Palm still...up to 55 mph in squalls

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we just had one move through now sun is out which could to lead to more action later today if we can get some sustained heating...standing water all around fort lauderdale..nothing we haven't seen before but more than expected based on what was happening yesterday around 1 pm.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5891 Postby rainstorm » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:56 am

wxman57 wrote:Not much time, busy today. My observation of Isaac this morning is that it's no stronger than yesterday. Recon and buoy reports indicate about 45-50 kts max. Though the TS winds extend out about 180-200 miles to the NE (a little above average), it will not be a HUGE storm at landfall. And if Isaac does strengthen today then those TS winds should draw in CLOSER to the center - they won't expand. Hurricane force winds (if it ever gets there) should cover a very small area NE of the center. I don't know where the media are getting this "huge hurricane" idea, it's just not the case.

Watch the estimates of center using satellite and radar, as it appears the core is tilted from south to north. Low level center is on the south side of the convection, south of where the radar indicates as it's looking WAY up above the surface.

SLOSH indicates a surge into SE LA of 5-7 ft as a cat 1, but Isaac will be a bit below-average in terms of any hurricane force wind area. This is NO Katrina.

Gotta run.


i agree. i think "if" is the key word. its amazing how things can change so fast.
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#5892 Postby rainstorm » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:57 am

tolakram wrote:
rainstorm wrote:Joe Bastardi ‏@BigJoeBastardi

That eye pops and NHC may see things the way I do about intensity. If not, then maybe I gotta come to them.

sounds like he is waivering a bit.


You are welcome to post JB tweets about Isaac, but not if he brings politics into it. I removed the first tweet. :)


no problem.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5893 Postby tolakram » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:58 am

Loop of 30 frames ending at 12:55Z, 8:55AM EDT

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/1min/inde ... height=800

Is it improving, or sucking in dry air?
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#5894 Postby Agua » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:59 am

wxwatcher1999 wrote:Is the upper Texas coast in the clear as of now?


No, its still within the cone of error.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5895 Postby Sanibel » Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:00 am

Can't find the poll, but I say category 3 when it goes in. It hasn't found its teeth yet but it will...



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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5896 Postby rainstorm » Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:01 am

tolakram wrote:Loop of 30 frames ending at 12:55Z, 8:55AM EDT

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/1min/inde ... height=800

Is it improving, or sucking in dry air?


i posted about that earlier. its a separate ball of convection with no obvious outflow channels. i think its gulping dry air. ive hever understood where all the dry air comes from in the tropics.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5897 Postby Time_Zone » Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:03 am

Sanibel wrote:Can't find the poll, but I say category 3 when it goes in. It hasn't found its teeth yet but it will...



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Yikes that would be bad. It's good to see Isaac struggling so bad right now though, I figured he would continue to struggle until he was running out of water. 85 MPH Category 1 is my prediction at landfall maybe 90.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5898 Postby caneman » Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:03 am

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tolakram wrote:Loop of 30 frames ending at 12:55Z, 8:55AM EDT

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/1min/inde ... height=800

Is it improving, or sucking in dry air?


i posted about that earlier. its a separate ball of convection with no obvious outflow channels. i think its gulping dry air. ive hever understood where all the dry air comes from in the tropics.


Looks like dry air to me. When you look at WV it tells the tale to me. IMHO.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5899 Postby otowntiger » Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:03 am

wxman57 wrote:Not much time, busy today. My observation of Isaac this morning is that it's no stronger than yesterday. Recon and buoy reports indicate about 45-50 kts max. Though the TS winds extend out about 180-200 miles to the NE (a little above average), it will not be a HUGE storm at landfall. And if Isaac does strengthen today then those TS winds should draw in CLOSER to the center - they won't expand. Hurricane force winds (if it ever gets there) should cover a very small area NE of the center. I don't know where the media are getting this "huge hurricane" idea, it's just not the case.

Watch the estimates of center using satellite and radar, as it appears the core is tilted from south to north. Low level center is on the south side of the convection, south of where the radar indicates as it's looking WAY up above the surface.

SLOSH indicates a surge into SE LA of 5-7 ft as a cat 1, but Isaac will be a bit below-average in terms of any hurricane force wind area. This is NO Katrina.

Gotta run.
And THANK GOODNESS for that!!!! :D Let's just hope that little old Isaac continues to underachieve and never does what they think he will or can do regarding intensity. Maybe he'll be a blessing in disguise if he can manage to get up to the drought stricken areas and make a dent in the rain deficits.

And thanks to you wxman57 for always being our voice of reason here and for all of your valuable input!
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5900 Postby cigtyme » Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:05 am

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Well here in Houma, got to work early at 6am expecting to storm prep, only to find welders still welding, and fitters still fitting. I really hope my Company is not screwing up. We are in southern Terrebonne parish. Glad i prepped on Sunday.

We have a Voluntary Evacuation for everyone south of the Intracoastal Waterway.

On a side note, you can feel that feeling in the air. Maybe it is just human nature, but it feels like something is churning the gulf.
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