ATL: ISAAC - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7221 Postby MGC » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:08 am

Isaac is knocking on the door...based on the recon winds I think the NHC should upgrade ASAP. Eye wall approaching the mouth of the river...should be a landfall soon.....MGC

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7222 Postby bella_may » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:09 am

looks like the center is just north of the nhc's forecast (click forecast point) http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/flash-vis.html
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#7223 Postby BigB0882 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:13 am

Looks like landfall is very very close. The only way it shouldn't landfall very soon is if it does head due West which I do not see on radar despite others seeing. NHC needs to issue a special advisory or this will have to be upgraded when they go back and take a look later in the year.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7224 Postby Blinhart » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:13 am

Well I just stepped outside, and the clouds here are barely moving, so that should be some what of a concern. There isn't much steering in the upper atmosphere so I think there is an excellent chance of this stalling out there and just continue consolidating.
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#7225 Postby Extratropical94 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:13 am

Strong winds are already working down to the surface.
A NOAA dropsonde indicated 93 knot winds (107 mph) at the 962 mb level.
The sonde hit water at 989 mbars, so it measured high-end Cat. 2 winds at approximately 1000 ft (300 m) above sea level.
Only the lower levels show weaker winds (excerpt from recon thread):
989mb (Surface) - 65 knots (75 mph) -> Cat. 1 at sea level
983mb - 65 knots (75 mph) -> Cat. 1 at 200 ft above sea level
977mb - 79 knots (91 mph) -> strong Cat. 1 at 400 ft above sea level
962mb - 93 knots (107 mph) -> moderate to strong Cat. 2 at 1000 ft and higher levels
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7226 Postby Sanibel » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:14 am

I think land friction is making the core more compact as good as a badly dry air infused center can be.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7227 Postby w5yne » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:14 am

Blinhart wrote:Well I just stepped outside, and the clouds here are barely moving, so that should be some what of a concern. There isn't much steering in the upper atmosphere so I think there is an excellent chance of this stalling out there and just continue consolidating.



I did the same so I'm off to Bayou Bend for a round of Golf .....
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#7228 Postby Blinhart » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:14 am

BigB0882 wrote:Looks like landfall is very very close. The only way it shouldn't landfall very soon is if it does head due West which I do not see on radar despite others seeing. NHC needs to issue a special advisory or this will have to be upgraded when they go back and take a look later in the year.


I'm sorry the center of the storm is still over 100 miles away and the storm is moving very slow so we are still many hours away from landfall, yes there is effects of Isaac coming in land, but land fall isn't until the Center makes landfall.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7229 Postby Texashawk » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:15 am

Bless his heart, he's trying so hard to grow up into a real hurricane:

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#7230 Postby Blinhart » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:16 am

Extratropical94 wrote:Strong winds are already working down to the surface.
A NOAA dropsonde indicated 93 knot winds (107 mph) at the 962 mb level.
The sonde hit water at 989 mbars, so it measured high-end Cat. 2 winds at approximately 1000 ft (300 m) above sea level.
Only the lower levels show weaker winds (excerpt from recon thread):
989mb (Surface) - 65 knots (75 mph) -> Cat. 1 at sea level
983mb - 65 knots (75 mph) -> Cat. 1 at 200 ft above sea level
977mb - 79 knots (91 mph) -> strong Cat. 1 at 400 ft above sea level
962mb - 93 knots (107 mph) -> moderate to strong Cat. 2 at 1000 ft and higher levels


With this information why are people still basically saying it is nearly impossible for it to make Cat. 2, if this continues dropping down to the surface and he continues strengthening which he should Cat. 2 is not out of the question, let alone Cat. 3.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7231 Postby Fyzn94 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:18 am

Texashawk wrote:Bless his heart, he's trying so hard to grow up into a real hurricane:

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Or in this case, Isaac's surroundings are Abraham attempting to sacrifice his life as a hurricane.
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#7232 Postby Extratropical94 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:19 am

Upgrade, he's a hurricane now!

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WTNT64 KNHC 281618
TCUAT4

HURRICANE ISAAC TROPICAL CYCLONE UPDATE
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL092012
1120 AM CDT TUE AUG 28 2012

...RECONNAISSANCE DATA INDICATE ISAAC FINALLY ACHIEVES HURRICANE
STATUS...

REPORTS FROM AN AIR FORCE RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT
INDICATE THAT MAXIMUM WINDS ASSOCIATED WITH ISAAC HAVE INCREASED
TO 75 MPH...120 KM/H. ON THIS BASIS...ISAAC IS BEING UPGRADED TO
A HURRICANE.

SUMMARY OF 1120 AM CDT...1620 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...28.1N 88.6W
ABOUT 75 MI...115 KM SSE OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER
ABOUT 160 MI...250 KM SE OF NEW ORLEANS LOUISIANA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...75 MPH...120 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 310 DEGREES AT 10 MPH...17 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...975 MB...28.79 INCHES

$$
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#7233 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:19 am

TWC reporting that NHC upgraded Isaac to Hurricane
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#7234 Postby wkwally » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:20 am

THe question is if the NHC will pull the hurricane trigger at 2 PM or not.
So far this storm has been just under hurricane wind speed all morning and night. IMO I think they will but, but then again Issac has been playing with everyone all night. Will it make cat 2, it could but I do not think so unless it stalls out over water.
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#7235 Postby wkwally » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:21 am

Just seen it on the NHC site
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#7236 Postby rtd2 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:21 am

KBBOCA wrote:Regarding the matter of the hurricane deductible, if I recall correctly, for my policy in FL, the "hurricane deductible" was applicable to any named storm for which the NHC was issuing advisories. I don't *THINK* it mattered as to whether it was a TS or hurricane.

BUT I COULD BE WRONG... (I sold my house a year ago, so it's been awhile since I checked the Florida policy details!)




correct...named storm
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#7237 Postby wkwally » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:21 am

first Gulf hurricane of the season
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#7238 Postby Blinhart » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:22 am

So we now have Hurricane Isaac.
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#7239 Postby Texashawk » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:23 am

'Bout damn time
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#7240 Postby wkwally » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:23 am

Now the new question will it make cat 2
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