ATL: DEBBY - Post-Tropical

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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Post-Tropical

#4481 Postby wxman57 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:42 pm

NEXT! I'm thinking maybe early August (the 8th) for "Ernesto". El Nino is coming on strong now. Could shut things down early this season.
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#4482 Postby Peach » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:02 pm

jdray wrote:CR218 in Clay County, big corridor for many Middleburg residents is closed due to washout.
Nolan Rd is also washed out, leaving some residents stranded, they have temp patched Nolan Rd, but CR218 will take weeks.
[http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/1563/218washoutwilldickeyred.jpg

US 301 bridge near Otis Rd is closed due to washout.
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/6636 ... ridge0.jpg

Alerts from FDOT:
http://www.fl511.com/Alerts.aspx


http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/9060/imagefull6.jpg


What are "flood products". One pro referred to them as floods are not of interest without winds. The St. Mary's is now forecast to reach 23.4 feet, flood stage is 12.0. This is the sixth revision; parts of US 90, & SR 121 were out, but the sun is shining now.
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#4483 Postby ozonepete » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:41 pm

wxman57 wrote:The chart is correct...

POST-TROPICAL CYCLONE DEBBY ADVISORY NUMBER 18
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL042012
500 PM EDT WED JUN 27 2012

...DEBBY LOSES TROPICAL CHARACTERISTICS...NOW A POST-TROPICAL
CYCLONE...


Debby sure is post-tropical - it absorbed dry air and is stretched out by shear, but the Unisys analysis was not correct just in my opinion; but it's also HPC's opinion. I'm posting how the HPC analyzes it. There is a difference. HPC has never attached Debby to the front. Just sayin'. I'm done with Debby too anyway. We'll see if we get to August without a TC, lol.

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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Post-Tropical

#4484 Postby wxman57 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:47 pm

It all depends upon who is analyzing the chart. I've been analyzing surface charts for over 35 years now. Debby was/is most definitely associated/connected with the cold front. Possibly, the HPC analyzer didn't want his/her chart to conflict with what the NHC was saying about Debby at the time.
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Post-Tropical

#4485 Postby ozonepete » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:01 pm

wxman57 wrote:It all depends upon who is analyzing the chart. I've been analyzing surface charts for over 35 years now. Debby was/is most definitely associated/connected with the cold front. Possibly, the HPC analyzer didn't want his/her chart to conflict with what the NHC was saying about Debby at the time.


Your last statement there was what I was getting at. I just wanted to know why there has been a discrepancy. You've answered it very well. :) And no one admires your analysis skills here more than I do, as you know. That's why you get all my tough questions. You're the one who can answer them best. :) See you when Ernesto shows up, which I know you hope is next year, lol.
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Post-Tropical

#4486 Postby jaxfladude » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:05 pm

wxman57 wrote:NEXT! I'm thinking maybe early August (the 8th) for "Ernesto". El Nino is coming on strong now. Could shut things down early this season.

Good! "Beryl" and "Debby" were bad enough for me...I hope that "Ernesto", if and when it forms, it is a true "fish storm"....
The earlier this season ends the better....

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wxman57 wrote:It all depends upon who is analyzing the chart. I've been analyzing surface charts for over 35 years now. Debby was/is most definitely associated/connected with the cold front. Possibly, the HPC analyzer didn't want his/her chart to conflict with what the NHC was saying about Debby at the time.


Your last statement there was what I was getting at. I just wanted to know why there has been a discrepancy. You've answered it very well. :) And no one admires your analysis skills here more than I do, as you know. That's why you get all my tough questions. You're the one who can answer them best. :) See you when Ernesto shows up, which I know you hope is next year, lol.


I could not agree more.... :uarrow: :uarrow: 8-)
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Post-Tropical

#4487 Postby Stephanie » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:05 pm

It's a darn shame that all of that water can't be transferred out west to fight those fires. We've seen that time and time again. Incredible pictures.
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#4488 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:46 pm

See ya in 2018 Debby! (unless somehow she gets retired - and this doesn't seem like such a scenario)
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Post-Tropical

#4489 Postby fci » Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:52 am

wxman57 wrote:NEXT! I'm thinking maybe early August (the 8th) for "Ernesto". El Nino is coming on strong now. Could shut things down early this season.


As much as I am a Tropical Weather Enthusiast; I would actually welcome a boring, nothing happens season from here on out.
Let's shut it down early this season wxman!!!!!
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#4490 Postby HurricaneBelle » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:24 am

CrazyC83 wrote:See ya in 2018 Debby! (unless somehow she gets retired - and this doesn't seem like such a scenario)


At first I thought she might be but then I noticed that Fay, which had similar impacts on Florida, is on the list for 2014.
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Post-Tropical

#4491 Postby Hurricanehink » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:40 am

Convection has increased significantly, looking much more tropical. It's back up to 10% in the TWO.

SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH POST-TROPICAL
CYCLONE DEBBY...LOCATED ABOUT 175 MILES WEST-NORTHWEST OF
BERMUDA...HAS INCREASED THIS MORNING. THIS SYSTEM IS PRODUCING
WINDS TO NEAR GALE FORCE AS IT MOVES NORTHEASTWARD AT 15 TO 20 MPH.
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE MARGINALLY FAVORABLE FOR
REGENERATION...AND THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE AGAIN DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THIS SYSTEM CAN BE FOUND IN HIGH SEAS
FORECASTS ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE.
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Post-Tropical

#4492 Postby Riptide » Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:31 am

Hurricanehink wrote:Convection has increased significantly, looking much more tropical. It's back up to 10% in the TWO.

SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH POST-TROPICAL
CYCLONE DEBBY...LOCATED ABOUT 175 MILES WEST-NORTHWEST OF
BERMUDA...HAS INCREASED THIS MORNING. THIS SYSTEM IS PRODUCING
WINDS TO NEAR GALE FORCE AS IT MOVES NORTHEASTWARD AT 15 TO 20 MPH.
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE MARGINALLY FAVORABLE FOR
REGENERATION...AND THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE AGAIN DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THIS SYSTEM CAN BE FOUND IN HIGH SEAS
FORECASTS ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE.

10%?
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Post-Tropical

#4493 Postby floridasun78 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:09 am

maybe wxman want summer off
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Post-Tropical

#4494 Postby ozonepete » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:51 am

:uarrow: yuk yuk. yeah he would simply hate if this regenerated. But it's gaining tropical characteristics again. If I didn't know where it came from and just saw it today, I'd say it was a developing STS. Looks like the trough/front may leave it behind again to percolate.

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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Post-Tropical

#4495 Postby drezee » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:38 am

If I lived in Bermuda, I would be quite concerned…They should have Gale warning up at least…
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Post-Tropical

#4496 Postby drezee » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:44 am

Check out Buoy 41048...pressure falling rapidly...will we get a passover

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=41048
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Post-Tropical

#4497 Postby crimi481 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:56 am

I believe may be good chance it slows -possible stalls -sinks WSW
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Post-Tropical

#4498 Postby crimi481 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:57 am

crimi481 wrote:I believe may be good chance it slows -possible stalls -sinks WSW

Sorry - meant E.S.E

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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Post-Tropical

#4499 Postby drezee » Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:19 pm

Highest 1-minute Wind Speed
Time (EDT) WSPD WDIR
12:14 pm 35.0 kts S ( 190 deg true )


Peak gust during the measurement hour
TIME
(EDT) GDR GST
12:14 pm SSW ( 200 deg ) 44.7 kts


TS sustained winds...
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Post-Tropical

#4500 Postby Riptide » Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:52 pm

Mabye NHC got tired of all the criticism from naming mid-laditude systems.
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