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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#521 Postby Sanibel » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:24 pm

The convection is probably displaced by the easterlies. If it goes above the islands it won't be weakened by land interaction.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#522 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:25 pm

@TropicalTidbits Hispaniola has two effects on tropical disturbances: weaken and slow. If 96L gets tangled there, chance of missing trough increases.
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#523 Postby Gustywind » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:27 pm

panamatropicwatch wrote:It does seem to be cruisin 8-)

Without any doubts 96L is fast and furious :) after Bertha another fast moving system showing are strong the easterlies are...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#524 Postby meriland23 » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:32 pm

Its going too fast. Do you think its going too fast to even delevop?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#525 Postby deltadog03 » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:35 pm

meriland23 wrote:Its going too fast. Do you think its going too fast to even delevop?



very possible
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#526 Postby somethingfunny » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:43 pm

I'm counting several areas of spin. Areas roughly around 16N/57W, 17N/59W, and 17N/62W all seem suspect.

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That southeastern vorticity (16/57) seems like it must be the lead wave that we were initially expecting development from before this northern lobe came and sapped much of its' energy. Is the southern lobe is fighting back now?
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#527 Postby Hammy » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:43 pm

Eastern vortex seems to be moving a bit faster towards the convection and a lot of the low cloud movement is starting to switch around from the west up and down the western side of the Lesser Antilles.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#528 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:47 pm

I'm wondering...as this was originally 2 waves with one going considerably faster than the other one, that perhaps they didnt consolidate. Thats why we see 2 spins and the northern one going much faster, and both competing with one another
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#529 Postby Alyono » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:50 pm

meriland23 wrote:Its going too fast. Do you think its going too fast to even delevop?


Needs to go FASTER to develop. It is being sheared from the east
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#530 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:52 pm

It's nearly under and anti-cyclone according to this map.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#531 Postby meriland23 » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:56 pm

Alyono wrote:
meriland23 wrote:Its going too fast. Do you think its going too fast to even delevop?


Needs to go FASTER to develop. It is being sheared from the east


If it moves any faster it will kill itself, if it doesn't move faster it will be sheared. It's a lose lose situation for the storm. I don't see it becoming anything.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#532 Postby Hammy » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:57 pm

tolakram wrote:It's nearly under and anti-cyclone according to this map.


There seems to be just enough distance, at least at the moment, to produce 10-15kts of shear from the northeast if it doesn't speed up a bit more.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#533 Postby Alyono » Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:01 pm

meriland23 wrote:
Alyono wrote:
meriland23 wrote:Its going too fast. Do you think its going too fast to even delevop?


Needs to go FASTER to develop. It is being sheared from the east


If it moves any faster it will kill itself, if it doesn't move faster it will be sheared. It's a lose lose situation for the storm. I don't see it becoming anything.


it'll be fine if it speeds up. The winds are enough to sustain a circ
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#534 Postby abajan » Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:12 pm

somethingfunny wrote:I'm counting several areas of spin. Areas roughly around 16N/57W, 17N/59W, and 17N/62W all seem suspect.

http://i.imgur.com/hWHvpjS.gif

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Looks like there was even a small one trying to develop about 100 miles northeast of Barbados a few hours ago.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#535 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:21 pm

It now seems that convection is starting to bubble up around the center recon was following so this might be the one that wins out

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#536 Postby HURRICANELONNY » Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:26 pm

Sad part of all this is 96L will probably be the only game in town for august :roll:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#537 Postby Sanibel » Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:26 pm

17.5-59
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#538 Postby cycloneye » Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:33 pm

60%-80%

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT THU AUG 21 2014

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

Shower activity associated with the small low pressure area
approaching the Leeward Islands has changed little in organization
during the past few hours. Environmental conditions are expected to
be conducive for some development during the next day or so, and a
tropical depression or tropical storm could still form while the
system moves west-northwestward at 20 to 25 mph across the Lesser
Antilles. The mountainous terrain of Hispaniola could limit
development during the first part of the weekend, but conditions are
expected to become more conducive for development by Sunday when the
system is forecast to move near or over the Bahamas. Regardless of
tropical cyclone formation, gusty winds and heavy rainfall are
expected across portions of the Lesser Antilles, Puerto Rico, and
the Virgin Islands through Friday, and over Hispaniola late Friday
and Saturday. Interests in those islands and in the Bahamas should
closely monitor the progress of this disturbance. An Air Force
Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft is scheduled to investigate this
system again tomorrow afternoon.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...high...60 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...80 percent.

$$
Forecaster Beven
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#539 Postby caribepr » Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:43 pm

Cooling us off and bringing some rain...we'll see what happens but so far so good!
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#540 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:43 pm

    HURRICANELONNY wrote:Sad part of all this is 96L will probably be the only game in town for august :roll:

    If hwrf verifies this will be enough activity for this season
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