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#801 Postby bamajammer4eva » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:38 pm

Canadian has it riding just offshore of the N Coast of Cuba to right on top of FL Keys by 120 Hrs
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#802 Postby South Texas Storms » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:40 pm

0z CMC has it passing near Key West in 120 hours. Another Gulf run by the Canadian model.
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#803 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:40 pm

bamajammer4eva wrote:Canadian has it riding just offshore of the N Coast of Cuba right on top of FL Keys by 120 Hrs


Can you post it, where in the keys have a house in Key Largo.
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#804 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:41 pm

no one should take the CMC serious, please .. it's not a model for the tropics
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#805 Postby bamajammer4eva » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:43 pm

Miami Storm Tracker wrote:
bamajammer4eva wrote:Canadian has it riding just offshore of the N Coast of Cuba right on top of FL Keys by 120 Hrs


Can you post it, where in the keys have a house in Key Largo.


Sorry but can't post maps from Weatherbell on here
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#806 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:43 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:0z CMC has it passing near Key West in 120 hours. Another Gulf run by the Canadian model.


Link?
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#807 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:44 pm

Not a problem thanks anyway.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#808 Postby HouTXmetro » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:44 pm

Didn't the Canadian show recurve first and the GFS then Euro followed suit?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#809 Postby South Texas Storms » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:44 pm

SFLcane wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:0z CMC has it passing near Key West in 120 hours. Another Gulf run by the Canadian model.


Link?


http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gem/
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#810 Postby AtlanticWind » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:45 pm

NOGAPS has it just off the coast of florida ,big shift on this run

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... opics.html
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#811 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:46 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#812 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:48 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:0z CMC has it passing near Key West in 120 hours. Another Gulf run by the Canadian model.


Link?


http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gem/


Thanks for the link does not appear to be a full run stops before it gets to the keys.
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#813 Postby Alyono » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:49 pm

while the Canadian does not deserve equal weight, to blindly throw it out is not very scientific, unless there is a flaw in its meteorological reasoning.

In this case, it has backing from the UKMET (how good it is, I do not know), HWRF (which has struggled with long range forecasts this year), and the minority of EC ensemble members.

These models hint at 2 possible scenarios. One (the recurve) is more likely than the other, however
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#814 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:50 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#815 Postby Bocadude85 » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:50 pm

AtlanticWind wrote:NOGAPS has it just off the coast of florida ,big shift on this run

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... opics.html


That is a big west shift from the NOGAPS.. And it had been very persistent about a early recurve east of the Bahamas it's last few runs.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#816 Postby paintplaye » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:54 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:
AtlanticWind wrote:NOGAPS has it just off the coast of florida ,big shift on this run

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... opics.html


That is a big west shift from the NOGAPS.. And it had been very persistent about a early recurve east of the Bahamas it's last few runs.


NE trough is a lot shallower and lifts North faster. As a result riding builds in even faster. If you notice, it almost gets caught by the trough initially before getting pushed West slightly.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#817 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:55 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:
AtlanticWind wrote:NOGAPS has it just off the coast of florida ,big shift on this run

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... opics.html


That is a big west shift from the NOGAPS.. And it had been very persistent about a early recurve east of the Bahamas it's last few runs.


Wow another flip flop, when do we get some kind of idea where this what ever it becomes will go.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#818 Postby JPmia » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:55 pm

HWRF running out to 63hr.. so far looks like HWRF slows it down in the Bahamas heading nw after going north of the DR.. intensifying too.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#819 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:56 pm

Indeed..

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#820 Postby MWatkins » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:56 pm

Subtle differences in the intensity of 96L and the strength/shape of the EC trough are going to be huge...and all of this is happening in the 96-120 hour period.

A difference of a degree or two west/north is huge. So far, CMC, NOGAPS have shifted west, and assuming UKMET stays consistent on the west side of the envelope and the HWRF stays consistent with the last 5 runs - the GFS becomes the outlier.

Either way, there will probably be a tropical cyclone sitting in the Bahamas by early next week in a weak steering environment in late August. Should make for an interesting weekend.

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