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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#161 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:17 pm

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18z GFS... 138 Hours... Pressure going down again... Looks N of 12z...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#162 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:21 pm

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18z GFS... 150 Hours... Maintaining TD/TS, maybe... Moving WNW
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#163 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:26 pm

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18z GFS... 168 Hours... Getting a little stronger... Looks like exit stage right starting...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#164 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:30 pm

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18z GFS... 180 Hours.. Moving NNE?... 996 mb... 93L survives and makes a comeback on 18z...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#165 Postby Riptide » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:34 pm

The recurve is way out in the long-range and that trough is very shallow and zonal, expect more shifts.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#166 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:37 pm

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18z GFS... 192 Hours... 93L is roaring back... Seems to be taking it's time exiting
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#167 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:41 pm

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18z GFS... 228 Hours... Still drifting around... Weakening again... Steering seems very weak from hours 162-228...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#168 Postby Riptide » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:44 pm

The Sea Level Pressure increase is due to the model truncation after hour 192, fwiw.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#169 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:45 pm

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18z GFS... 288 Hours... Swipes Bermuda on it's way out...
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#170 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:47 pm

:uarrow: High Resolution only goes out to about 204-216hrs. after that it's anyone's guess especially since it's Fantasy Land! :lol:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#171 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:57 pm

Riptide wrote:The recurve is way out in the long-range and that trough is very shallow and zonal, expect more shifts.
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That was an interesting run for sure... Once 93L got to the NW Bahamas, it had hard time figuring out where to go from there... Enough to lift it out, barely... The big news is the GFS didn't kill 93L off this time...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#172 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:07 pm

Blown Away wrote:
Riptide wrote:The recurve is way out in the long-range and that trough is very shallow and zonal, expect more shifts.
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That was an interesting run for sure... Once 93L got to the NW Bahamas, it had hard time figuring out where to go from there... Enough to lift it out, barely... The big news is the GFS didn't kill 93L off this time...


in the setup shown here on the 18zGFS it does go out to sea but stalls out for a period so the chances of US landfall IMO have gone up from 2% to 5% and could go up farther if farther west shifts continue

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#173 Postby Alyono » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:11 pm

HWRF merely maintains its current intensity through 5 days. Only minor fluctuations occur. Pressure never drops below 1008mb

I'm thinking this is probably the most realistic solution at this point
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#174 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:54 pm

WHXX01 KWBC 300048
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
0048 UTC WED JUL 30 2014

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.

ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL932014) 20140730 0000 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS... ...36 HRS...
140730 0000 140730 1200 140731 0000 140731 1200

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 9.5N 41.3W 10.1N 44.5W 10.8N 47.8W 11.4N 50.9W
BAMD 9.5N 41.3W 9.8N 43.6W 10.3N 45.8W 11.1N 47.9W
BAMM 9.5N 41.3W 9.8N 43.8W 10.3N 46.3W 11.0N 48.8W
LBAR 9.5N 41.3W 9.4N 44.1W 9.6N 46.9W 10.0N 49.7W

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS... ..120 HRS...
140801 0000 140802 0000 140803 0000 140804 0000

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 12.0N 53.5W 13.5N 58.8W 16.1N 64.2W 18.3N 69.6W
BAMD 11.9N 49.8W 14.4N 53.9W 17.5N 58.2W 20.3N 62.0W
BAMM 12.0N 51.1W 14.8N 56.0W 18.0N 60.9W 21.0N 65.1W
LBAR 10.6N 52.3W 12.3N 57.8W 15.2N 62.1W 21.7N 66.1W

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 9.5N LONCUR = 41.3W DIRCUR = 270DEG SPDCUR = 13KT
LATM12 = 9.5N LONM12 = 38.6W DIRM12 = 268DEG SPDM12 = 15KT
LATM24 = 9.6N LONM24 = 35.5W
WNDCUR = 30KT RMAXWD = 40NM WNDM12 = 30KT
CENPRS = 1012MB OUTPRS = 1014MB OUTRAD = 100NM SDEPTH = M
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#175 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:59 pm

I'm starting to wonder if the GFS is doing it again with over development on this one and the phantom storms of the past, it seems as thought we still have that problem with the GFS so in this case go with a blend of the Euro and the GFS because I do believe the truth will lie in between if not closer to the Euro

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#176 Postby Alyono » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:04 pm

SHIPS and LGEM are now in the lower bounds of a cat 1 hurricane
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#177 Postby ronjon » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:09 pm

18z GFDL and HWRF models show weak TS sliding through virgin islands and clipping NE PR.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#178 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:59 pm

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00z... Most of the models not crashing down and maintain TS...
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#179 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:10 pm

:uarrow: The HWFI/HWRF hurricane model seems to be an outlier on that graphic. Wonder if it will be the one that actually gets 93L's intensity right?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#180 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:28 pm

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00z... Decent left shift with the models... I'm thinking 93L is going to stay shallow and find it's way into the Caribbean before turning north, JMHO...
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