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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#21 Postby abajan » Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:14 pm

Any Storm2K members in the Cape Verde Islands?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#22 Postby Gustywind » Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:22 pm

abajan wrote:Any Storm2K members in the Cape Verde Islands?

Very good question Abajan :) I Wonder... that will be interresting if we have some :D
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#23 Postby Hurricaneman » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:07 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:Looks rather interesting ATM, of course that could all change overnight and by the time morning arrives it could be a struggling disturbance like we've seen with MANY systems in the past. :wink:

I also wonder why they put the X on the eastern side of the convection when it's obviously well organized ATM?

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because looking at this the low is not in the center of the convection but on the NE edge which means there is some NE shear but also this could be one of those systems that fizzles out or is a tropical storm on advisory 1

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#24 Postby USTropics » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:19 pm

Latest CIMSS SWIR with Shear/Dry Air overlay. Shear tendencies show decreasing values in front of 95L. This may give 95L a small window to develop before it moves WNW towards a weakness in the subtropical ridge near 25-35N (and decreasingly favorable conditions as noted by the SAL plume towards the north). Not 100% sold on the recurve, as the models do forecast the weakness to fill in and more westerly flow becoming established (The 0Z GFS doesn't do much with 95L).

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#25 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:59 pm

Saved image IR loop. It does look like convection is starting to diminish...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#26 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:06 am

Maybe it was a TD for a few hours on Friday but look now as the sun rises how the LLC is exposed.I think NHC did the right thing not to jump ahead and upgrade to TD for only 6 hours.

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#27 Postby northjaxpro » Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:19 am

Going with the trend with this one. Eventually, SAL and dry air will destroy 95L. It is simply too much out there for 95L to survive. I may be wrong, but I am going with the odds against this system developing here.

I do think late yesterday and last night it may briefly have been a TD based on ASCAT. But, that's all moot now.
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#28 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:30 am

Down to 20/20%. Just another pointless invest IMO. :roll:

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT SAT AUG 16 2014

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

Early morning visible satellite images indicate that the shower
activity associated with an area of low pressure centered between
the west coast of Africa and the Cape Verde Islands has become
disorganized. Although the potential for tropical cyclone formation
has diminished considerably, the low could still produce a few
squalls over the Cape Verde Islands today as it drifts
west-northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 day...low...20 percent.

$$
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#29 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:30 am

Move along people there is nothing that will come out of this any more, King Euro has had this all under control ;)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#30 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:53 am

Nice swirl, especially given the fact it just came off the coast.

I think I'll keep an eye on it.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/product ... 160715.GIF

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/m ... t72hrs.gif
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#31 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:04 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#32 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:10 am

Euro Theta-E tracer showing pouches 17L and 18L merging.

http://www.met.nps.edu/~mtmontgo/storms ... cmwf-6.png
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#33 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:58 am

Easterly shear really kicked overnight and striped it of it's convection!

I remember last night saying how good it looked and that in the morning it could be a whole different story and what do you know I was correct. :lol:
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#34 Postby WPBWeather » Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:02 am

TheStormExpert wrote:Easterly shear really kicked overnight and striped it of it's convection!

I remember last night saying how good it looked and that in the morning it could be a whole different story and what do you know I was correct. :lol:


Is this what you are referring to?

The 00z UKMET text.

NEW TROPICAL STORM FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 60 HOURS

FORECAST POSITION AT T+ 60 : 13.2N 38.3W



VERIFYING TIME POSITION STRENGTH TENDENCY

-------------- -------- -------- --------

12UTC 18.08.2014 13.2N 38.3W WEAK

00UTC 19.08.2014 14.0N 38.9W WEAK LITTLE CHANGE

12UTC 19.08.2014 14.9N 42.1W WEAK LITTLE CHANGE

00UTC 20.08.2014 15.4N 45.8W WEAK INTENSIFYING SLIGHTLY

12UTC 20.08.2014 16.6N 50.2W WEAK LITTLE CHANGE

00UTC 21.08.2014 17.7N 55.4W WEAK LITTLE CHANGE

12UTC 21.08.2014 18.0N 60.4W WEAK INTENSIFYING SLIGHTLY

00UTC 22.08.2014 18.8N 64.6W WEAK INTENSIFYING SLIGHTLY
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#35 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:30 am

ASCAT made around 7:30 AM EDT shows the LLC devoid of convection.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#36 Postby Sanibel » Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:36 am

Usually an established Low like that would definitely form however the SAL seems to be eating up every wave.
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#37 Postby SouthDadeFish » Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:37 am

This is why the NHC waits before it classifies a system as a TC :)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#38 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:42 am

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It's headed for an area with less SAL, and less shear.

I would put chances at this
48 Hours: 50%
120 Hours: 50%
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#39 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:03 am

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the system is also moving toward cooler SST, it's done unless it can make a comeback in the north Atlantic
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#40 Postby Alyono » Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:11 am

Hurricane Andrew wrote:The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

It's headed for an area with less SAL, and less shear.

I would put chances at this
48 Hours: 50%
120 Hours: 50%


about 50% too high
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