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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#101 Postby jlauderdal » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:49 am

adam0983 wrote:Invest 91L definitely looks like a Tropical Depression right now. Just an opinion
fortunately there is science involved in any upgrades but you are certainly entitled to your opinion
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#102 Postby jlauderdal » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:52 am

Aric Dunn wrote:slowly coming together... weak broad rotation evident nothing defined at all. wont be too much longer. should see a large burst of convection soon which maybe get the surface circ on its way.


the squadron is scheduled for tomorrow so maybe they will have something to look at
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#103 Postby lester » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:52 am

Stormlover2012 wrote:lol the eye looks about 350 miles wide, this will be a monster


A disorganized monster of messy proportions, sure
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#104 Postby Evil Jeremy » Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:00 pm

I think NHC goes up to 30 percent in the 2pm TWO. 91L has a lot of work to do though. Its slowly improving. The biggest task for the system right now is to consolidate.
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#105 Postby Sanibel » Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:25 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:i mentioned in.the previous thread the developing low just north of the ne tip of the yucatan is tthe plave to watch




I agree. I think the Caribbean wave took over and Barbara's remnants poofed.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#106 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:37 pm

No change.

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT MON JUN 3 2013

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

1. A WEAK LOW PRESSURE AREA IS LOCATED OVER THE SOUTH-CENTRAL GULF OF
MEXICO. DISORGANIZED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ASSOCIATED WITH
THIS SYSTEM ARE LOCATED WELL EAST OF THE CENTER DUE TO UNFAVORABLE
UPPER-LEVEL WINDS. ANY DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM IS LIKELY TO BE
SLOW TO OCCUR DUE TO THE MARGINALLY FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENTAL
CONDITIONS. THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW CHANCE...20 PERCENT...OF
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT DRIFTS
GENERALLY NORTHWARD.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BROWN
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#107 Postby Weatherboy1 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:45 pm

My semi-educated guess is that this thing ends up a low-end TS with an extremely sheared appearance before making a FL landfall somewhere in the Big Bend area. I wouldn't be surprised to see a tighter low center/LLC to pop up in the next 24-36 hours off the Yucatan peninsula ... but for almost all the convection to be displaced mostly to the E/NE, possibly by quite a bit. That would be a typical early-June storm set up. It's also possible nothing more than a disorganized low comes out of this. But if I were a betting man, I'd go with scenario #1.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#108 Postby tropicwatch » Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:53 pm

Those are some pretty wild model maps. Bunch of Lows to the South and Highs to the north. I don't recall ever seeing such an active map.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#109 Postby GCANE » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:26 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#110 Postby NDG » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:30 pm

12z euro is a little stronger than previous runs, it hangs the low pressure just north of the Yucatan Peninsula through the next 48-72 hrs.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#111 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:45 pm

GCANE wrote:1C warm core at about 9km with a strong convective cap

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/product ... 6_TANO.GIF


COC at 22N 90W

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/product ... 031745.jpg


18z Best Track a little bit north of that location.

AL, 91, 2013060318, , BEST, 0, 230N, 896W, 20, 1009, DB
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#112 Postby GCANE » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:50 pm

Best chance IMHO for this is DMAX just before sunrise in the morning when the upper troposphere is the coldest.

RAP is showing negative LI through out the area

http://www.twisterdata.com/data/models/ ... 000_MB.png


Pretty good CAPE values then

http://www.twisterdata.com/data/models/ ... URFACE.png
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#113 Postby GCANE » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:53 pm

cycloneye wrote:
GCANE wrote:1C warm core at about 9km with a strong convective cap

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/product ... 6_TANO.GIF


COC at 22N 90W

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/product ... 031745.jpg


18z Best Track a little bit north of that location.

AL, 91, 2013060318, , BEST, 0, 230N, 896W, 20, 1009, DB


Thanks Cycloneye.

Mid-level moisture seems to keep inching closer to it.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... -long.html
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#114 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:59 pm

As every has said so far just a very disorganized but large area of rain at this point. Most of the rain seems to be staying of the southwest coast, if this trends continues I don't see south east fl, at least getting 5 to 8 " of rain from this as has been estimated by the weather service.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#115 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:59 pm

Will see see a repeat but in a much less intensity version of last season Tropical Storm Debby?

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#116 Postby tropicwatch » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:07 pm

cyclone, I like that picture 8-) In that situation NW FL might actually get some rain.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#117 Postby adam0983 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:07 pm

Based on the latest satellite presentation Invest 91L looks to be a tropical depression. The outflow looks great and the rain continues to build.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#118 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:09 pm

adam0983 wrote:Based on the latest satellite presentation Invest 91L looks to be a tropical depression. The outflow looks great and the rain continues to build.


It has a mountain to climb to be a Tropical Depression.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#119 Postby GCANE » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:11 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#120 Postby Evil Jeremy » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:12 pm

adam0983 wrote:Based on the latest satellite presentation Invest 91L looks to be a tropical depression. The outflow looks great and the rain continues to build.


You keep saying that. This is far from a TD. there is barely any organization with 91L at the time.
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