ATL: CHANTAL - Post-Tropical

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#2641 Postby artist » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:37 pm

thanks to all of ya that do this for us!
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#2642 Postby artist » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:38 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:Next mission is at 7:30am folks, and I'll be back for that one, keeping all the latest information in the first post. See you all then!

good night Jeremy.
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#2643 Postby ConvergenceZone » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:39 pm

interesting how the NHC discussion says that it has an appearance of an open wave, but they aren't sure since they weren't able to fully sample the part of the storm that would tell them for sure....

So since they aren't sure, it sounds like they are keeping it a storm for now...
So I guess at this point, we don't know if it's an open wave or not....We'll see what tomorrow morning brings .
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#2644 Postby StormTracker » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:39 pm

artist wrote:thanks to all of ya that do this for us!

I second that motion!!!
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2645 Postby ozonepete » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:39 pm

:uarrow: I would like to know exactly what that's all about myself. Meanwhile...

Chantal blowing up some nice convection again...

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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2646 Postby floridasun78 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:39 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
orion wrote:Here is a pic I took when talking with CARCAH at the NHC... he was showing us the restriced air space on the map. You can see the two areas marked on the map, although Cuba does let them fly now. The other region is just below where he is pointing on the map.

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i know they have flown down there before for ivan and many others... must have been special permision.

you see it area of Venezuela coast on map got zone
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Models

#2647 Postby ROCK » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:39 pm

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here is another look...
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2648 Postby weatherSnoop » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:40 pm

artist wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
orion wrote:Here is a pic I took when talking with CARCAH at the NHC... he was showing us the restriced air space on the map. You can see the two areas marked on the map, although Cuba does let them fly now. The other region is just below where he is pointing on the map.

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i know they have flown down there before for ivan and many others... must have been special permision.

that seems a rather long way from their coastline to me, and we have flown throughout the caribbean many times before. Any pilots here that have access to the info? This is gonna bug me! :lol:


Perhaps the new regime chooses to continue the anti American sentiment. I don't mean this as a political statement, though politix may be interfering with the good of the people in many lands
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Models

#2649 Postby WeatherEmperor » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:41 pm

I really want to thank Rock, Jevo, meriland23 and others that take the time to post the models. You guys are totally awesome and I have a lot of respect for you guys. Thanks for helping people like me understand the model data better!

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#2650 Postby Jevo » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:41 pm

0z GFS +36 --- Not looking good even on 850mb

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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Models

#2651 Postby ROCK » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:41 pm

another look at the 18Z GFS Ensembles

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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Models

#2652 Postby ROCK » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:42 pm

looks like it decoupled?
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#2653 Postby Caribwxgirl » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:42 pm

So if it turns out the coc is further south what direction might the track take?
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#2654 Postby Jevo » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:44 pm

0z GFS +48

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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2655 Postby Pearl River » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:44 pm

It may have to do with the Maiquetia FIR (Flight Information Region). Looking at the Low Altitude Enroute charts for that region, it looks like it could be restricted. You can fly the routes, but cannot deviate off of them.
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2656 Postby FL Cyclone » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:44 pm

You can see the airspace boundaries here. It's labeled as Maiquetia, which is right on the coast.

Edit: Pearl beat me. :wink:
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2657 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:46 pm

Not saying its happening or going to happen but if Chantal does get downgraded to an open wave/remnant low what future implications will that have on the long range track? Will it move more west in the deep easterly flow or none at all?
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#2658 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:46 pm

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ICAO ATS Airspace Classifications (Annex 11)

The Venezuelan Airspace has a sole FIR named Maiquetia (SVZM). In Venezuela, all TMA’s are Class “E”, except Maiquetia which is Class “C”, pursuant ICAO ATS Airspace Classification (Annex 11).

 

FIR Maiquetia comprises the airspace between the following coordinates:

 

11°52'00"N/71°20'00"W a 12°00'00"N/71°00'00"W, a

12°30'00"N/71°25'00"W a 12°30'00"N/70°30'00"W, a

11°24'00"N/67°58'00"W a 15°41'00"W/67°04'00"W, a

15°00'00"N/65°00'00"W a 11°00'00"N/62°30'00"W, a

10°44'00"N/61°47'00"W a 10°05'06"N/62°03'28"W, a

09°59'23"N/61°55'40"W a 09°59'23"N/61°27'57"W, a

08°55'00"N/59°57'00"W, along the line of the 1899 Agreement (Territory claimed by Venezuela) until

05°10'00"N/60°30'00"W. From there along the geographical border to Brazil to

01°11'00"N/66°50'00"W, and from there along the geographical border with Colombia to

11°52'00"N/71°20'00"W
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#2659 Postby Jevo » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:50 pm

0z GFS +60 -- GFS has lost track of it.. I'll keep an eye for reformation as the model progresses, but no need to post blank maps.. Stay tuned

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#2660 Postby Jevo » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:51 pm

I spoke to soon

0z GFS +66

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0z GFS +72 - -I have no idea

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