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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Dorian Remnants - Discussion

#3381 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:04 pm

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ATL: INVEST 91L - Dorian Remnants - Discussion

#3382 Postby HurricaneDREW92 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:05 pm

I'm going in favor of an 11am TD. To be honest, part of me still feels like in the morning Dorian has convection and at night it has structure. Once again, might be me but you never know.
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Some, though unreliable take it into the GOM. Bears watching.
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#3383 Postby 'CaneFreak » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:11 pm

Hey Aric,

I am not sure that they (NHC) have reinitialized it as an invest yet because even wunderground has no model plots up.

Aric Dunn wrote:
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Aric Dunn wrote:anyone have the gfs ensemble members?


Aric here are the 12z plots..

[img]http://i40.tinypic.com/14o1u9w.png[/ig]


yeah thats way to far east not even useable.. thanks though
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#3384 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:12 pm

Moderate TS inpacting SFL

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#3385 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:13 pm

Dorian just doesn't want to disappear it seems. :roll:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Dorian Remnants - Discussion

#3386 Postby wxman57 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:13 pm

I can't find any evidence of a surface circulation. Any rotation seen on radar is in the mid levels - 12,000-15,000 ft, as the Miami radar beam is that high above the ground out there. Winds are very light all through the Bahamas and convection is minimal. No development.
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#3387 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:14 pm

Those members on here who were saying we might have to watch it in the Northwestern Bahamas were pretty much correct! I'd be very very surprised if this became a TD again.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#3388 Postby 'CaneFreak » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:17 pm

Well, I can guarantee that solution is bogus...wow...that's laughable

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#3389 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:20 pm

'CaneFreak wrote:Well, I can guarantee that solution is bogus...wow...that's laughable

SFLcane wrote:Moderate TS inpacting SFL

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Actually care to state why? Shear isnt a problem at the moment along with very deep warm gulfstream waters that isnt to far fetched. This thing is crawling
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#3390 Postby 'CaneFreak » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:22 pm

Its basing that solution off the assumption that this is already a closed system which it is not

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'CaneFreak wrote:Well, I can guarantee that solution is bogus...wow...that's laughable

SFLcane wrote:Moderate TS inpacting SFL

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Actually care to state why? Shear isnt a problem at the moment along with very deep warm gulfstream waters that isnt to far fetched. This thing is crawling
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#3391 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:23 pm

With conditions mentioned above moving very slowly its got my attention
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Dorian Remnants - Discussion

#3392 Postby Sanibel » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:26 pm

Could have a center reforming nearer to Nassau.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#3393 Postby Hurricane Alexis » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:27 pm

SFLcane wrote:Moderate TS inpacting SFL

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Do you have a link for those maps? Thanks in advance.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#3394 Postby 'CaneFreak » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:28 pm

I wouldnt get my panties in a wad..its got 24 hours and then the shear monster is going to gobble it up once and for all

SFLcane wrote:With conditions mentioned above moving very slowly its got my attention
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#3395 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:33 pm

'CaneFreak wrote:I wouldnt get my panties in a wad..its got 24 hours and then the shear monster is going to gobble it up once and for all

SFLcane wrote:With conditions mentioned above moving very slowly its got my attention


What was that? Have seen plenty of systems develop in less then that. Even a weak TD can have significant impacts. It's really the only game in town till this dust settles in a few weeks.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#3396 Postby 'CaneFreak » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:37 pm

No worries...I was just laughing because you were backing your argument that this was going to develop with one of the worst models...sorry :D

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'CaneFreak wrote:I wouldnt get my panties in a wad..its got 24 hours and then the shear monster is going to gobble it up once and for all

SFLcane wrote:With conditions mentioned above moving very slowly its got my attention


What was that? Have seen plenty of systems develop in less then that. Even a weak TD can have significant impacts. It's really the only game in town till this dust settles in a few weeks.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#3397 Postby Alyono » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:40 pm

'CaneFreak wrote:Its basing that solution off the assumption that this is already a closed system which it is not



actually, HWRF does NOT assume a closed low. No dynamical model assumes a closed low, unless a bogus low is initialized in the model. Dynamical models can develop their own closed low
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#3398 Postby Hurricane Alexis » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:43 pm

Well the HWRF always overdoes intensity.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#3399 Postby 'CaneFreak » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:44 pm

Ahhhhh....ok bogus vortex then..forgot about that..thx for the clarification..

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'CaneFreak wrote:Its basing that solution off the assumption that this is already a closed system which it is not



actually, HWRF does NOT assume a closed low. No dynamical model assumes a closed low, unless a bogus low is initialized in the model. Dynamical models can develop their own closed low
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#3400 Postby gatorcane » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:49 pm

Looks like there is a big blowup of convection between Cuba and Andros and new convection is blowing up pretty quickly just west of Andros:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... -long.html
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