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ATL: ERIN - Post-Tropical - Discussion

#1 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:36 pm

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#2 Postby ninel conde » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:54 pm

the way it looked over central africa im not surprised its an invest dry air doesnt seem to be an immediate problem.
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#3 Postby hurricanekid416 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:01 pm

Anyone think this could become a quick tropical storm
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#4 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:05 pm

Here is my take of course nothing official.

The wave in front will help clean some of the dry air to help 93L organize. How much it will do so is not known but it could be the first hurricane of the season it it gets ideal conditions and not track thru cooler water.


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ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#5 Postby HurricaneMaster_PR » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:07 pm

FIM 12Z is calling for a westward track http://fim.noaa.gov/FIM/displayMapLocal ... 44&adtfn=1
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#6 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:13 pm

Last visible of the day.

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#7 Postby Hurricane Alexis » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:16 pm

I think this is the one the CMC developed on the 00z run.


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#8 Postby Hurricane Alexis » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:28 pm

The wave ahead of it might help clean up all the dry air it will have to fight with in time.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#9 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:56 pm

The fact that the Euro is making this more robust with every consecutive run is of concern as this looks quite good at the moment, but there's a part of me that is thinking this will end up a lot more than modeled especially with the wave in front of it clearing out some of the stable air

as for track I do expect this to go W to WNW for at least 5 days but beyond that is really anyone's guess, the GFS produces a weakness around 55W while it looks like that weakness fills in on the Euro

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#10 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:37 pm

I think the wave in the eastern Atlantic has a great chance of becoming a tropical cyclone this week. As others have already pointed out, Invest 93L has a nice anticyclone atop of it, providing both low wind shear and the opportunity for outflow channels to develop. It is emerging south of the Cape Verde Islands where sea surface temperatures are more than sufficient to allow for tropical development. After a few large outbreaks of Saharan Air Layer the past two weeks, things have calmed down across the Atlantic; regardless, a majority of the SAL lies well north of the wave. Finally, a convectively-coupled kelvin wave...Dr. Masters mentioned we would see a few of these back in his post a couple of days ago...is moving eastward across the Main Development Region. This will help increase divergence and convective activity associated with the wave.

Unfortunately, the system will encounter a more stable environment in the central Atlantic over the weekend. I doubt it becomes anything of huge significance intensity wise. Reminds me of Dorian...maybe stronger.

Chance of overall cyclone formation - 60%, if you ask me.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#11 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:44 pm

Not bad.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#12 Postby hurricaneCW » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:51 pm

It looks ok and it's quite large, which could help it in the future. I wouldn't be surprised if more models latched onto it or developed something more significant from it in the coming runs, it is mid August after all.
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#13 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:16 pm

:uarrow: Wasn't the wave that spawned Dorian quite large when it was emerging Africa and in the vicinity of the Cape Verde islands?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#14 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:53 pm

A TROPICAL WAVE JUST OFF THE WEST COAST OF AFRICA IS PRODUCING
DISORGANIZED SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY. ENVIRONMENTAL
CONDITIONS APPEAR CONDUCIVE FOR SOME DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM
DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE IT REACHES COOLER WATER AND
DRIER AIR BY THE WEEKEND. THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW CHANCE...20
PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48
HOURS...AND A MEDIUM CHANCE...30 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL
CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 5 DAYS AS IT MOVES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT
ABOUT 10 MPH.
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#15 Postby Gustywind » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:09 pm

8 PM discussion.

A TROPICAL WAVE HAS COME OFF THE WEST AFRICAN COAST WITH AXIS
EXTENDING FROM 18N18W TO 11N16W. THIS WAVE IS ASSOCIATED WITH A
1008 MB LOW EMBEDDED WITHIN THE MONSOON TROUGH AXIS AND IS
PRODUCING SCATTERED MODERATE CONVECTION FROM 08N-15N E OF 25W.
THIS CONVECTION COINCIDES WITH AN AREA OF MAXIMUM MOISTURE IN
TOTAL PRECIPITABLE WATER IMAGERY. UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE EXPECTED
TO BE CONDUCIVE FOR SOME DEVELOPMENT OF THIS WAVE DURING THE
NEXT FEW DAYS UNTIL THE WAVE ENTERS A MORE STABLE ENVIRONMENT BY
THIS WEEKEND. CURRENTLY...THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW CHANCE...10
PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48
HOURS.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#16 Postby ozonepete » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:24 pm

:uarrow: Hi Gusty. I think you have the wrong Outlook there. It's not 10% anymore, it's 20%/30% as Luis posted. Did you put the wrong one in?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#17 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:50 pm

00z Best Track.

AL, 93, 2013081400, , BEST, 0, 129N, 180W, 20, 1010, LO
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#18 Postby Gustywind » Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:00 pm

ozonepete wrote::uarrow: Hi Gusty. I think you have the wrong Outlook there. It's not 10% anymore, it's 20%/30% as Luis posted. Did you put the wrong one in?

Hi my friend :) I don't think so, unless i'w wrong :oops: :roll:. You say wrong "Outlook", heu you mean... TWD, because i posted the latest tropical weather discussion :cheesy:

Here is the link related to the latest TWD of the NHC : http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MI ... WDAT.shtml?
You can cleary read it and see that i posted the same.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#19 Postby Gustywind » Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:05 pm

Gustywind wrote:
ozonepete wrote::uarrow: Hi Gusty. I think you have the wrong Outlook there. It's not 10% anymore, it's 20%/30% as Luis posted. Did you put the wrong one in?

Hi my friend :) I don't think so, unless i'w wrong :oops: :roll:. You say wrong "Outlook", heu you mean... TWD, because i posted the latest tropical weather discussion :cheesy:

Here is the link related to the latest TWD of the NHC : http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MI ... WDAT.shtml?
You can cleary read it and see that i posted the same.

Ozonepete, maybe they make a mistake ... they surely forgot to mention that the probabilities have pop to 20% :) as the TWO (Tropical Weather Outlook) says 20% :wink:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

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