ATL: INVEST 92L - RECON Discussion

[ROCK]

sending in a NOAA also....nice...we should have plenty of obs to look at.

[Dave]

RECON TCPOD Amended....Additional Flights

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REPRPD
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
0130 PM EDT WED 14 AUGUST 2013
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
         VALID 15/1100Z TO 16/1100Z AUGUST 2013
         TCPOD NUMBER.....13-074 AMENDMENT

I.  ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS......MISSIONS ADDED
    1. SUSPECT AREA - NEAR YUCATAN PENINISULA
       FIGHT ONE -- TEAL 70            FLIGHT TWO -- NOAA 49
       A. 15/1700Z                     A. 16/0000Z
       B. AFXXX 01BBA INVEST           B. NOAA9 02BBA SURV
       C. 15/1430Z                     C. 15/1730Z
       D. 19.0N 87.0W                  D. NA
       E. 15/1630Z TO 15/2000Z         E. NA
       F. SFC TO 15,000 FT             F. 41,000 TO 45,000 FT

       FLIGHT THREE -- NOAA 43         FLIGHT FOUR -- NOAA 42
       A. 15/2100Z                     A. 16/0900Z
       B. NOAA3 03BBA RADAR            B. NOAA2 O405A CYCLONE
       C. 15/1800Z                     C. 16/0600Z
       D. 19.8N 87.8W                  D. 21.6N 89.1W
       E. 15/2000Z TO 16/0030Z         E. 16/0730Z TO 16/1200Z
       F. SFC TO 15,000 FT             F. SFC TO 15,000 FT

       FLIGHT FIVE -- TEAL 71
       A. 16/1200Z, 1800Z
       B. AFXXX 0504A CYCLONE
       C. 16/0930Z
       D. 22.0N 89.5W
       E. 16/1130Z TO 16/1800Z
       F. SFC TO 15,000 FT

    2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY:
       A. CONTINUE 6-HRLY FIXES IF SYSTEM REMAINS A THREAT.
       B. A POSSIBLE G-IV MISSION AT 16/1730Z.
       C. ANOTHER P-3 MISSION AT 16/1800Z

II. PACIFIC REQUIREMENTS
    1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
    2. SUCCEEDING DAY OUTLOOK.....NEGATIVE.

$$
JWP

[CaneCurious]

How fast can they organize a recon mission? I really thought they really should have investigated this system this afternoon as it looks to be getting its act together quickly.

[StormTracker]

I think this is the first time since I've been on S2K that I remember them running dual-flights in one day! Did they even do this with Katrina or Wilma?

[RL3AO]

I think this is the first time since I've been on S2K that I remember them running dual-flights in one day! Did they even do this with Katrina or Wilma?

I think Katrina had 3 planes in it at the same time while it was approaching NOLA.

[Dave]

Gustav we had 2 NOAA & 1 USAF in the air at the same time also. I had all 3 of them at once...never again!

[StormTracker]

I think this is the first time since I've been on S2K that I remember them running dual-flights in one day! Did they even do this with Katrina or Wilma?

I think Katrina had 3 planes in it at the same time while it was approaching NOLA.

Gustav we had 2 NOAA & 1 USAF in the air at the same time also. I had all 3 of them at once...never again!

I was just a lurker back then, so I don't remember, but ok thanks...ST

[Dave]

Happy to see you're not a lurker anymore Storm Tracker! Your input is valuable!

[tropicwatch]

Is recon still a go for this morning?

[cycloneye]

Is recon still a go for this morning?

No word yet but I assume it is canceled.

[Dave]

No word here yet either....I also assume it's cancelled.

[Chris_in_Tampa]

"All tasked NOAA flight missions have been cancelled for AL92. We will continue to monitor the tropics."

http://noaahrd.wordpress.com/

Not sure about Air Force yet.

http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/raw/no ... ep.rpd.txt
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/MIAREPRPD.shtml

[brunota2003]

All flights on yesterday's TCPOD have been scrubbed. There are flights scheduled for tomorrow...if necessary.

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NOUS42 KNHC 151507
REPRPD
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1100 AM EDT THU 15 AUGUST 2013
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
         VALID 16/1100Z TO 17/1100Z AUGUST 2013
         TCPOD NUMBER.....13-075

I.  ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS......MISSIONS ADDED
    1. SUSPECT AREA - NEAR YUCATAN PENINISULA
       FIGHT ONE -- TEAL 71            FLIGHT TWO -- TEAL 72
       A. 16/1800Z                     A. 17/1200-1800Z
       B. AFXXX 01BBA INVEST           B. AFXXX 0205A CYCLONE
       C. 16/1530Z                     C. 16/0930Z
       D. 21.0N 91.5W                  D. 22.5N 92.5W
       E. 16/1730Z TO 16/2200Z         E. 16/1130Z TO 16/1800Z
       F. SFC TO 10,000 FT             F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

    2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY: CONTINUE 6-HRLY
       FIXES IF SYSTEM DEVELOPS.
    3. REMARKS:
       A. ALL TASKING ON THIS SYSTEM DETAILED ON
          TCPOD 13-074 CANCELED BY NHC AT 15/1300Z.
       B. NASA GLOBAL HAWK WILL TRANSIT FROM DRYDEN TO WALLOPS
          AT 16/0100Z.

[CaneCurious]

Is Recon going to go out today?

[cycloneye]

Is Recon going to go out today?

From 8 AM TWO:

THE AIR FORCE RESERVE RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT MISSION SCHEDULED FOR
TODAY HAS BEEN CANCELLED.

[Chris_in_Tampa]

Unnecessary again today. Scheduled for tomorrow if needed.

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NOUS42 KNHC 171505
REPRPD
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1100 AM EDT SAT 17 AUGUST 2013
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
         VALID 18/1100Z TO 19/1100Z AUGUST 2013
         TCPOD NUMBER.....13-077

I.  ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
    1. SUSPECT AREA (WESTERN GULF)
       FIGHT ONE -- TEAL 70            FLIGHT TWO -- TEAL 71
       A. 18/1800Z                     A. 19/1200Z,1800Z
       B. AFXXX 01BBA INVEST           B. AFXXX 0206A CYCLONE
       C. 18/1615Z                     C. 19/1000Z
       D. 26.0N 94.0W                  D. 27.8N 95.5W
       E. 18/1730Z TO 18/2200Z         E. 19/1130Z TO 19/1800Z
       F. SFC TO 10,000 FT             F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

    2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY.....NEGATIVE.
    3. REMARK: ALL TASKING REQUIREMENTS LEVIED IN TCPOD 13-076
       CANCELED BY NHC AT 17/1230Z.

II. PACIFIC REQUIREMENTS
    1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
    2. SUCCEEDING DAY OUTLOOK.....NEGATIVE.

$$
SEF

[Windsurfer_NYC]

Cancelled at 8:30 AM EDT, but not announced until 11:00 AM EDT. Was the cancellation announced anywhere prior to 11 AM?

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NOUS42 KNHC 171505
REPRPD
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1100 AM EDT SAT 17 AUGUST 2013
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 18/1100Z TO 19/1100Z AUGUST 2013
TCPOD NUMBER.....13-077

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. SUSPECT AREA (WESTERN GULF)
FIGHT ONE -- TEAL 70 FLIGHT TWO -- TEAL 71
A. 18/1800Z A. 19/1200Z,1800Z
B. AFXXX 01BBA INVEST B. AFXXX 0206A CYCLONE
C. 18/1615Z C. 19/1000Z
D. 26.0N 94.0W D. 27.8N 95.5W
E. 18/1730Z TO 18/2200Z E. 19/1130Z TO 19/1800Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY.....NEGATIVE.
3. REMARK: ALL TASKING REQUIREMENTS LEVIED IN TCPOD 13-076
CANCELED BY NHC AT 17/1230Z.

II. PACIFIC REQUIREMENTS
1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
2. SUCCEEDING DAY OUTLOOK.....NEGATIVE.

$$
SEF

[Chris_in_Tampa]

Unless they mention it in the Atlantic Tropical Weather Outlook, if they make the decision in time, if it is an Air Force mission you probably will not find out until the Plan of the Day is released. For NOAA missions, you might find out sooner through their blog or social media:

http://noaahrd.wordpress.com/
https://www.facebook.com/noaahrd
https://www.facebook.com/NOAAHurricaneHunters

[brunota2003]

For Airforce missions, it is not imperative that the public finds out that they are canceled...9 times out of 10 you will only find out through the TCPOD. A bit annoying, eh?

Also, if you put the TCPOD into "Code" instead of "Quote", it will separate the missions. But you cannot use any of the extras (bold, italicize, or underline).