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#81 Postby hurricanes1234 » Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:00 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:It might have a chance at becoming a hurricane before the dateline at this rate!


This would be a phenomenon if it really happens! First of all, Pewa formed in the central Pacific itself, it did not originate from an invest in the eastern Pacific, which is quite unusual. Secondly, the storm skipped tropical depression status when it was first classified. If I recall correctly, less than 5 storms did so thus far this year (cPac, ePac, Atlantic). Thirdly, the same storm, as you pointed out, has the potential to become a hurricane before it crosses 180°W, but it must do so by tonight. If it reaches 74 mph tomorrow morning, it would be too late, and would have to take the title 'typhoon' instead.

However, even if it doesn't make it to a hurricane, but rather a typhoon, this storm, in my opinion, is the most unique storm I've tracked, as well as the only cPac storm. And Pewa still has a long way to go!

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#82 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:08 pm

Once Pewa crosses the dateline, it has the potential to grow into a monster typhoon. The GFDL makes this a Category 5 monster (equivalent of course). HWRF and GFS @ Category 4 intensity.
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#83 Postby hurricanes1234 » Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:27 pm

TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:Once Pewa crosses the dateline, it has the potential to grow into a monster typhoon. The GFDL makes this a Category 5 monster (equivalent of course). HWRF and GFS @ Category 4 intensity.


Is it a danger to any landmasses, or will it be my favourite type of storm, a storm for the fishes?
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#84 Postby RL3AO » Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:30 pm

hurricanes1234 wrote:
TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:Once Pewa crosses the dateline, it has the potential to grow into a monster typhoon. The GFDL makes this a Category 5 monster (equivalent of course). HWRF and GFS @ Category 4 intensity.


Is it a danger to any landmasses, or will it be my favourite type of storm, a storm for the fishes?


Will get pretty close to Wake Island.
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#85 Postby hurricanes1234 » Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:50 pm

Intensification halted for now. Best track remains at 55 knots.

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#86 Postby RL3AO » Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:29 pm

I'd estimate 60 knots. Will it become a hurricane or a typhoon first?
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#87 Postby jaguarjace » Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:35 pm

Possibily CPHC last track before JMA continues
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#88 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:37 pm

RL3AO wrote:I'd estimate 60 knots. Will it become a hurricane or a typhoon first?

Actually, a typhoon. It is because it is expected to reach that strength AFTER it crosses the International Date Line. It is not yet upgraded to a hurricane and Pewa is already at about 179W, so no more time for intensifying.


(OFF TOPIC: TS Trami forms in the WPAC.)
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#89 Postby Meow » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:24 pm

JMA will begin issuing warnings on Pewa at 06Z. As Trami (1312) formed and another TD is no longer expected to develop, Pewa will be 1313.
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#90 Postby Meow » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:34 pm

This means that JMA will upgrade Pewa to a typhoon within 24 hours.

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WWJP25 RJTD 180000
WARNING AND SUMMARY 180000.
WARNING VALID 190000.
WARNING IS UPDATED EVERY 6 HOURS.
STORM WARNING.
EXPECTED NORTHEASTERLY WINDS 30 TO 65 KNOTS PREVAILING OVER WATERS
BOUNDED BY 17N 174E 17N 180E 14N 180E 14N 174E 17N 174E
FOR NEXT 24 HOURS.
STORM WARNING.
EXPECTED NORTHWESTERLY WINDS 30 TO 65 KNOTS PREVAILING OVER WATERS
BOUNDED BY 14N 174E 14N 180E 12N 180E 12N 174E 14N 174E
FOR NEXT 24 HOURS.
...
REMARKS.
...
TROPICAL STORM PEWA : SEE TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING (WTPA24 PHFO).

JAPAN METEOROLOGICAL AGENCY.=
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#91 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:47 pm

Meow wrote:JMA will begin issuing warnings on Pewa at 06Z. As Trami (1312) formed and another TD is no longer expected to develop, Pewa will be 1313.

Actually, Pewa is currently at 179.5W. So does that mean they'll issue it earlier?
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#92 Postby Meow » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:49 pm

xtyphooncyclonex wrote:Actually, Pewa is currently at 179.5W. So does that mean they'll issue it earlier?

CPHC has issued the last advisory, so JMA must issue the first warning at 06Z.

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WTPA44 PHFO 180230
TCDCP4

TROPICAL STORM PEWA DISCUSSION NUMBER 7
NWS CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE CENTER HONOLULU HI CP012013
500 PM HST SAT AUG 17 2013

AFTER A BURST OF ORGANIZATION EARLIER TODAY...THE DEEP CONVECTION
AROUND PEWA HAS ONCE AGAIN BECOME MORE RAGGED THIS AFTERNOON...AND
UPPER LEVEL OUTFLOW HAS BECOME CONSTRICTED ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF
THE STORM. THE DVORAK CURRENT INTENSITY ESTIMATES WERE ONCE AGAIN
3.5 ACROSS THE BOARD...SO THE INTENSITY WILL BE MAINTAINED AT 55 KT.

THE INITIAL MOTION REMAINS 300/11. THE GUIDANCE REMAINS TIGHTLY
CLUSTERED AROUND A FORECAST TRACK TO THE WEST-NORTHWEST...AS PEWA
REMAINS TO THE SOUTHWEST OF A LARGE SUBTROPICAL HIGH THROUGH THE
NEXT SEVERAL DAYS. THE FORECAST TRACK IS ESSENTIALLY UNCHANGED FROM
THE PREVIOUS TRACK.

THERE CONTINUE TO BE SOME MIXED SIGNALS THAT MAKE THE INTENSITY
FORECAST QUITE CHALLENGING. THE CIMSS ANALYSES INDICATE THAT PEWA IS
STARTING TO FEEL INCREASING SOUTHWESTERLY SHEAR FROM THE UPPER
LOW DROPPING SOUTH NEAR 20N 174E. THERE IS PROBABLY ALSO SOME
INTERACTION OCCURING WITH THE DISTURBANCE A FEW HUNDRED MILES TO THE
NORTHEAST. ON THE OTHER HAND...THE CYCLONE IS NOW ENTERING A VAST
AREA OF HIGHER OCEANIC HEAT CONTENT AND WARMER SEA SURFACE
TEMPERATURES...REACHING 29.5C ALONG THE EXPECTED TRACK. THE MODELS
ARE SHOWING THAT IN ANOTHER 24 HOURS OR SO...THE UPPER LOW WILL
START TO WEAKEN AND PULL NORTHWESTWARD...BUT NOT FAST ENOUGH TO
RELIEVE THE SYSTEM FROM INCREASING SHEAR. THUS...ANY INTENSIFICATION
SHOULD BE GRADUAL FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE IT HALTS. THERE
IS THE POSSIBILITY INTENSIFICATION COULD RESUME IN THE LONGER RANGE
IF PEWA CAN OVERCOME THE SOUTHWESTERLY SHEAR...AND THE UPPER TROUGH
MOVES AWAY FAR ENOUGH FOR ANTICYCLONIC FLOW TO BUILD OVER THE
SYSTEM...AS DEPICTED BY THE GFS AND NAVGEM. THE ECMWF REMAINS MORE
STUBBORN WITH THE UPPER LOW IN PEWA/S PATH...WHICH WOULD CERTAINLY
BE LESS FAVORABLE FOR INTENSIFICATION.

PEWA IS EXPECTED TO CROSS THE INTERNATIONAL DATE LINE BY 06Z...
AND THIS WILL BE THE FINAL ADVISORY FROM THE CENTRAL PACIFIC
HURRICANE CENTER. THE NEXT BULLETIN WILL BE ISSUED BY THE RSMC
TOKYO. FOR U.S. INTERESTS...SEE THE PUBLIC ADVISORIES ISSUED BY THE
U.S. NWS WEATHER FORECAST OFFICE GUAM AND DOD WARNINGS ISSUED BY THE
JOINT TYPHOON WARNING CENTER.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 18/0300Z 11.8N 179.5W 55 KT 65 MPH
12H 18/1200Z 12.8N 178.8E 60 KT 70 MPH
24H 19/0000Z 13.9N 176.7E 60 KT 70 MPH
36H 19/1200Z 15.2N 174.6E 65 KT 75 MPH
48H 20/0000Z 16.5N 172.2E 65 KT 75 MPH
72H 21/0000Z 19.3N 168.0E 65 KT 75 MPH
96H 22/0000Z 21.9N 163.8E 70 KT 80 MPH
120H 23/0000Z 24.9N 159.3E 75 KT 85 MPH

$$

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#93 Postby RL3AO » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:50 pm

We will move this thread to the West Pacific forum when JMA issues their first advisory.
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#94 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:52 pm

Yeah, let's wait for JMA to make it official.
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#95 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:54 pm

Pewa will cross the Dateline by 3:00 PM JST; 2:00 PM PHT / TST or 6:00 AM UTC.

So 3 hours from now. Pretty fast!
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#96 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:59 pm

Pewa has just entered the WPAC.
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#97 Postby Iceman56 » Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:24 pm

xtyphooncyclonex wrote:Pewa has just entered the WPAC.


Not as of 0330 UTC, it hasn't.

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#98 Postby euro6208 » Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:33 am

Welcome PEWA, your bigger cousin has been waiting for you... :P :lol:
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#99 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:05 am

It's already 0700 UTC and the JMA didn't issue yet their first advisory... :double:
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#100 Postby mrbagyo » Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:29 am

SSD already transferred PEWA to WPAC
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