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ATL: INGRID - Recon Discussion

#1 Postby Extratropical94 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:24 am

I believe that's not today's mission. It has been there already before 15:19 UTC and the date says September 11.
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#2 Postby RL3AO » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:25 am

You're right. My mistake. Just happened to be the same time as it was yesterday, plus takeoff was scheduled for 10 minutes ago.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Recon

#3 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:25 am

Training mission.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Recon - Discussion

#4 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:27 am

94,I made these posts as Recon Discussion thread. :)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Recon - Discussion

#5 Postby Extratropical94 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:28 am

cycloneye wrote:94,I made these posts as Recon Discussion thread. :)


Thanks :)

I'm still curious about what's going or not going on ATM as there's nothing about a possible cancellation of this mission in today's TCPOD.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Recon - Discussion

#6 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:30 am

Extratropical94 wrote:
cycloneye wrote:94,I made these posts as Recon Discussion thread. :)


Thanks :)

I'm still curious about what's going or not going on ATM as there's nothing about a possible cancellation of this mission in today's TCPOD.


TCPOD didn't have a mention of cancellation,then mission is on.
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#7 Postby Extratropical94 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:07 am

The aircraft is somehow having communication issues, so we don't know if the plane is airborne already or not.
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#8 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:13 am

Extratropical94 wrote:The aircraft is somehow having communication issues, so we don't know if the plane is airborne already or not.


Yeah,it has been more than half an hour that nothing comes out. I hope there are any problems with plane.
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#9 Postby Dave » Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:20 am

It looks like a problem with the plane like a few weeks ago with AF 308. It doesn't look like they got very far from base and may have returned to Keesler already especially because it's been + 30 minutes The last time this happened it took 2 or 3 hours, time to get another flight ( AF 309) ready to fly then took off later in the afternoon. Looks like it may be the same thing again. Just keep watching the hdobs is my best suggestion. I'll be in and out for a little while but I will check obs too.

Note, they also put mission cancellations on a Recco message at times besides the TCPOD...that's why I keep a screen open on Recco's also.
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#10 Postby Extratropical94 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:57 am

Dave wrote:It looks like a problem with the plane like a few weeks ago with AF 308. It doesn't look like they got very far from base and may have returned to Keesler already especially because it's been + 30 minutes The last time this happened it took 2 or 3 hours, time to get another flight ( AF 309) ready to fly then took off later in the afternoon. Looks like it may be the same thing again. Just keep watching the hdobs is my best suggestion. I'll be in and out for a little while but I will check obs too.

Note, they also put mission cancellations on a Recco message at times besides the TCPOD...that's why I keep a screen open on Recco's also.


You were right, AF302 is now the active aircraft to replace AF301.
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#11 Postby Dave » Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:13 pm

Good you got it...I've got to work this afternoon but will check back in when I'm done around 5 pm.
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#12 Postby Alyono » Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:14 pm

How lovely,... plane 2 also cannot get off of the ground
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#13 Postby Extratropical94 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:31 pm

The plane is now in the air... finally.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Recon Discussion

#14 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:37 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Recon Discussion

#15 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:15 pm

Plane decends to operational altitude. Let's see how they find the low and how strong it is.
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#16 Postby Bailey1777 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:39 pm

can someone remind me what each line represents plz....thx
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#17 Postby Extratropical94 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:56 pm

Code: Select all

193900  2031N     09230W     9768                  00261     0063                     +233   +224      133026                              028             029                 002        00
time    latitude  longitude  pressure @ fl. level  altitude  estimated sfc. pressure  temp.  dewpoint  wind direction&30s-mean wind speed  10-s wind gust  est. surface winds  rain rate  error code


For more detailed information see:

http://www.ofcm.gov/nhop/13/pdf/18-app-g.pdf

There are also some excellent explanations here on this board:

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=115344
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=85603
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=97379
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#18 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:37 pm

Extratropical94 wrote:They seem to check out different altitudes (977 mb at first, then 988, now 963 mb)
Oil rigs in the area perhaps? They were flying extremely low there for a bit.
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Re: ATL: TEN - Recon Discussion

#19 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:37 pm

Next mission will be early Friday morning with plane departing at 4 AM CDT.


FLIGHT TWO --TEAL 71--
A. 13/1200Z
B. AFXXX 0210A CYCLONE
C. 13/0900Z
D. 19.5N 94.0W
E. 13/1130Z TO 13/1530
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT F. SFC TO 10,000 FT
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Re: ATL: TEN - Recon Discussion

#20 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:05 am

A considerable amount of reconnaissance is scheduled for today into what is currently tropical depression Ten, but forecast to become Ingrid later today (Friday, September 13th). Multiple flights will occur from three different agencies with a total of six different kinds of aircraft.

The Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunters are tasked by the National Hurricane Center (NHC) for missions scheduled to take off at both 5am and 5pm EDT from Keesler AFB in Mississippi, arriving for scheduled fixes three hours after each departure time.

There are many research missions however.

From the Hurricane Research Division (HRD) blog about the NOAA Hurricane Hunter's G-IV (NOAA9) and NOAA3 (a P-3):

"G-IV: Is tasked by HRD to fly a Tail Doppler Radar Experiment into [TD Ten] (Bay of Campeche). Take off time is scheduled for 1300 UTC (9AM Eastern). No HRD scientists will be on this flight.

NOAA43: Is tasked by EMC to fly a Rapid Intensification/EMC Tail Doppler Radar Experiment into [TD Ten] (Bay of Campeche). Take off time is scheduled for 1800 UTC (2PM Eastern). Two HRD scientists and an HRD intern will be on this flight."

NOAA's aircraft will depart from Tampa, FL.

NASA will have three aircraft in the storm.

A NASA Global Hawk UAV (unmanned aerial vehicle) will depart at 7am EDT from NASA's Wallops Flight Facility in Virginia and fly at around 55,000 to 65,000 feet on a twenty four mission dropping 66 sondes as part of NASA's Hurricane and Severe Storm Sentinel (HS3) mission.

A NASA ER-2, flying at around 60,000 to 65,000 feet, will depart from Houston, Texas at 9:30am EDT.

A NASA DC-8, flying at anywhere from 1,000 to 35,000 feet, will also depart from Houston, Texas at 9:30am EDT.

(Departure locations for NASA's ER-2 and DC-8 are based on the last landing location, on September 11th, available in NASA's tracker below.)

For information on all these types of aircraft, including all of NASA's, visit NASA's page here:
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lookin ... craft.html

To track the path of NASA's flights, use their tracker here:
http://airbornescience.nasa.gov/tracker/

You can also track NOAA's aircraft as well.

Additional Air Force and NOAA flights will also occur on Saturday and Sunday. Another NASA Global Hawk mission is possible on Sunday.

You can view more information about the reconnaissance schedule for today, and for some of the links below, subsequent day(s), at the following locations:

NHC's Plan of the Day:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/recon.php

NOAA's HRD Blog:
http://noaahrd.wordpress.com/

Daly Schedule for NASA's HS3 Mission:
http://espo.nasa.gov/missions/hs3/daily-schedule
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