ATL: INGRID - Recon Discussion

[Alyono]

plane is having comms issues this morning

[ScottNAtlanta]

I just saw this post after posting in the discussion thread. I dont know whats correct. The coordinates they are transmitting are not plotting on GE...sometimes there is pressure readings sometimes not...frustrating for them as well on the plane I'm sure

[ScottNAtlanta]

Does anyone know what the avg age of these aircraft they use are? Just wondering.

[tailgater]

Does anyone know what the avg age of these aircraft they use are? Just wondering.

I'm not sure but I worked on them in Biloxi in 1983 and they sure weren't new then. probably built in late sixties if I had to guess.

[CrazyC83]

I believe AF301 is the oldest plane, correct, and AF309 (or 310) the newest?

I believe the P-3's date back to the 1970s, while the AF planes are varying ages.

[Dave]

I believe AF301 is the oldest plane, correct, and AF309 (or 310) the newest?

I believe the P-3's date back to the 1970s, while the AF planes are varying ages.

Yes 301 & 302 are the oldest and ditto on the newest at 309 & 310. The actual age of the C-130J's I'd have to look up but they've been around since the 70's or 80's I believe.

I'm still working with my regular job, but will try to clear it by noon if possible so I can help.

[cycloneye]

[cycloneye]

Hi Dave. I can continue with NOAA3.

[Tireman4]

Guys, how many planes are in this storm? Two...Three?

[CrazyC83]

2 planes I believe.

[cycloneye]

Who wants to continue posting the NOAA3 data?

[CrazyC83]

Who wants to continue posting the NOAA3 data?

I can do it.

[cycloneye]

Who wants to continue posting the NOAA3 data?

I can do it.

Good.

[Tireman4]

2 planes I believe.

Thanks. Interesting. Two.

[cycloneye]

NOAA plane finished mission so is now the Air Force plane alone.

[Dave]

Anyone want AF 304 for awhile?

[brunota2003]

The C-130J Model took over in 1999. The original platform is from the '60s I believe...but I do not know if they have C-130s that have simply been sent to reset and upgraded, or if the older planes were actually retired and they received new aircraft that were J models. Most likely both - some are probably upgrades, and others were bought new.

There is a LOT of info about the planes (and equipment) here:
http://www.hurricanehunters.com/plane.html

Also, the communications issues they have, have NOTHING to do with the age of the aircraft itself. The communications are routed from a computer system through a transmitter to a satellite, where it is then routed to a station on the ground (either the NHC or Keesler AFB). I, personally, have dealt with military communications equipment and some of the equipment seems to have a mind of it's own! One minute it works and you get messages sent in a couple seconds, then the next message takes 10 minutes for it to go through. It can be a pain in the rear from time to time! Sometimes you just want to take the computer out, throw it across the desert, and then smash what's left with a hammer!

[Hammy]

When does the next plane arrive in the storm?

[cycloneye]

Here are the next missions for Sunday and Monday.

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WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1055 AM EDT SAT 14 SEPTEMBER 2013
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
         VALID 15/1100Z TO 16/1100Z SEPTEMBER 2013
         TCPOD NUMBER.....13-105

I.  ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
    1. TROPICAL STORM INGRID
       FLIGHT 0NE --NOAA 43--         
       A. 15/2100Z                     
       B. NOAA3 1310A INGRID           
       C. 15/1800Z                     
       D. 22.3N 95.7W                           
       E. 15/2030Z TO 15/2330Z                           
       F. SFC TO 15,000 FT         

       FLIGHT TWO --TEAL 72--       
       A. 16/0000Z                     
       B. AFXXX 1410A INGRID           
       C. 15/2115Z                     
       D. 22.5N 96.0W                 
       E. 15/2300Z TO 16/0300Z         
       F. SFC TO 15,000 FT             

       FLIGHT THREE --TEAL 73--
       A. 16/1200Z
       B. AFXXX 1510A INGRID
       C. 16/0915Z
       D. 22.5N 97.5W
       E. 16/1130Z TO 16/1530Z
       F. SFC TO 15,000 FT

    2. SUCCEEDING DAY OUTLOOK.....NEGATIVE.

    3. REMARKS:
       A. A GLOBAL HAWK 871 MISSION INTO INGRID WITH A
          15/1400Z TAKEOFF.
       B. A POSSIBLE GLOBAL HAWK 872 MISSION INTO HUMBERTO
          WITH A 16/1400Z DEPARTURE.



[cycloneye]

Our friend Dave nor me can't do the missions of this afternoon/evening so I ask for volunteers to post the data from NOAA and Air force planes. Who says yes? NOAA departs at 1 PM CDT and Air Force at 4 PM CDT.