ATL: ERIKA - Remnants - Discussion

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Message
Author
User avatar
Miami Storm Tracker
Category 4
Category 4
Posts: 910
Age: 67
Joined: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:12 pm
Location: Key Largo, Fla.
Contact:

Re: Re:

#1161 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:07 pm

northjaxpro wrote:
JonathanBelles wrote:I was waiting for the 2nd VDM that never arrived, but here is my update on Erika:
http://jonathanbelles.com/2015/08/26/er ... uncertain/



As always, great discussion and blog Jonathan!!


Took the time to read his forecast, very good read. Did not go with one idea and left all options on the table.
0 likes   

User avatar
Hammy
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 5849
Age: 42
Joined: Fri May 25, 2012 5:25 pm
Contact:

Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1162 Postby Hammy » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:11 pm

OURAGAN wrote:Look at the barbados radar, East of guadeloupe


Looking a bit worse than earlier, still due west, but there looks like there might be new convection about to fire.
0 likes   
The above post is not official and should not be used as such. It is the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is not endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

Alyono
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 6961
Joined: Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:52 pm
Location: Texas Coast

Re: Re:

#1163 Postby Alyono » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:14 pm

Miami Storm Tracker wrote:
SouthDadeFish wrote:I believe the feature Gator pointed out is the remnant mid level vortex associated with this previous convective burst.


So you are feeling that the LLC is still the original, and a new one is not forming under the new convection.


there is not a new center. You're paying attention to the MLC, which often forms under big bursts. There was too much low level convergence into the LLC to allow for a reformation
0 likes   

User avatar
Miami Storm Tracker
Category 4
Category 4
Posts: 910
Age: 67
Joined: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:12 pm
Location: Key Largo, Fla.
Contact:

Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1164 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:17 pm

Nice blow up of thunder storms in the last few frames, also looking at the water vapor loop I may be wrong but seems that Erica is producing a decent amount of moisture to fend off the dry air to her north and west.
0 likes   

Alyono
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 6961
Joined: Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:52 pm
Location: Texas Coast

#1165 Postby Alyono » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:18 pm

This burst will probably die out. Happens quite a bit in high shear environments
0 likes   

User avatar
Miami Storm Tracker
Category 4
Category 4
Posts: 910
Age: 67
Joined: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:12 pm
Location: Key Largo, Fla.
Contact:

Re: Re:

#1166 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:18 pm

Alyono wrote:
Miami Storm Tracker wrote:
SouthDadeFish wrote:I believe the feature Gator pointed out is the remnant mid level vortex associated with this previous convective burst.


So you are feeling that the LLC is still the original, and a new one is not forming under the new convection.


there is not a new center. You're paying attention to the MLC, which often forms under big bursts. There was too much low level convergence into the LLC to allow for a reformation


Thank you Alyono,

I always follow and read ur post.
0 likes   

curtadams
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1122
Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:57 pm
Location: Orange, California
Contact:

Re: Re:

#1167 Postby curtadams » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:21 pm

Miami Storm Tracker wrote:So you are feeling that the LLC is still the original, and a new one is not forming under the new convection.


The new burst is close enough to the old LLC that it could be coming from it given the sheared conditions. The air gets displaced as it's going up. Maybe there was a relatively short displacement, "dragging", or elongation involved; almost impossible to tell from satellite. The burst is so large and stably positioned it almost has to be drawing from an LLC.
0 likes   

User avatar
toad strangler
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 4543
Joined: Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:09 pm
Location: Earth
Contact:

Re: Re:

#1168 Postby toad strangler » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:23 pm

Note the much calmer shear zone (well modeled) between the islands and the Bahamas.

Image
Last edited by toad strangler on Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
0 likes   

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21238
Age: 42
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

#1169 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:23 pm

Hello all.....
0 likes   
Note: If I make a post that is brief. Please refer back to previous posts for the analysis or reasoning. I do not re-write/qoute what my initial post said each time.
If there is nothing before... then just ask :)

Space & Atmospheric Physicist, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University,
I believe the sky is falling...

User avatar
gatorcane
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 23691
Age: 47
Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:54 pm
Location: Boca Raton, FL

Re:

#1170 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:24 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Hello all.....


Aric! Haven't seen you on here in a while! Nice to see you :)
0 likes   

User avatar
deltadog03
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 3580
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:16 pm
Location: Macon, GA

Re:

#1171 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:25 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Hello all.....

uh oh!! look who made it!
0 likes   

User avatar
WPBWeather
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 535
Age: 67
Joined: Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:33 pm

Re:

#1172 Postby WPBWeather » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:25 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Hello all.....


Welcome back! Explain all , please.
0 likes   

User avatar
weatherSnoop
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 702
Age: 62
Joined: Wed Oct 09, 2002 10:06 pm
Location: Tampa, FL
Contact:

Re:

#1173 Postby weatherSnoop » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:25 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Hello all.....


I have been wondering where you were hiding :lol:
0 likes   

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21238
Age: 42
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

#1174 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:25 pm

Its quite apparent from radar that the center is still exposed to the NW side.
0 likes   
Note: If I make a post that is brief. Please refer back to previous posts for the analysis or reasoning. I do not re-write/qoute what my initial post said each time.
If there is nothing before... then just ask :)

Space & Atmospheric Physicist, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University,
I believe the sky is falling...

User avatar
Bocadude85
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2991
Age: 38
Joined: Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:20 pm
Location: Honolulu,Hi

Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1175 Postby Bocadude85 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:26 pm

Why is Gaudeloupe not under a tropical storm warning? If most of the turbulent weather is south of the center I would think they would get some nasty weather over night.
0 likes   

User avatar
Miami Storm Tracker
Category 4
Category 4
Posts: 910
Age: 67
Joined: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:12 pm
Location: Key Largo, Fla.
Contact:

Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1176 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:27 pm

Well well look what the Cat dragged in, long time how have you been. Would really like your take on this mess.
0 likes   

User avatar
northjaxpro
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 8900
Joined: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:21 am
Location: Jacksonville, FL

#1177 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:28 pm

Welcome back Aric!
0 likes   
NEVER, EVER SAY NEVER in the tropics and weather in general, and most importantly, with life itself!!

________________________________________________________________________________________

Fay 2008 Beryl 2012 Debby 2012 Colin 2016 Hermine 2016 Julia 2016 Matthew 2016 Irma 2017 Dorian 2019

User avatar
NDG
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 15446
Joined: Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:14 pm
Location: Orlando, FL

#1178 Postby NDG » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:29 pm

Looking at the radar the LLC is still on the NW edge of the deep convection.
Also by looking at the radar I would say that the LLC is located near 16.6N & 60W, IMO
0 likes   

BobHarlem
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2118
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:11 pm

#1179 Postby BobHarlem » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:33 pm

Long run loop of that Barbados radar composite http://flhurricane.com/imageanimator.php?175
0 likes   

User avatar
tailgater
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 3339
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:13 pm
Location: St. Amant La.

Re:

#1180 Postby tailgater » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:33 pm

gatorcane wrote:Are we sure there may not be a new center trying to form more ESE of the current LLC which is along the NW fringe of the blob? Look around 57N 17W and the cloud flow around that area. Perhaps it is just at the mid-levels.

http://i.imgur.com/SgZ04ak.gif

Wow that far north GC :P
0 likes   
The following post is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including storm2k.org For Official Information please refer to the NHC and NWS products.


Return to “2015”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 21 guests