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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Models

#1361 Postby SunnyThoughts » Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:54 pm

TexasF6 wrote:I think Erica's center is redeveloping back to SE of that big burst. This changes a lot IMHO. Not an official forecast, but it looks very interesting. Models may shift west again.



Oh im quite sure they will shift west again at some point, then east again etc. UP until they resolve the issue with that ridge and how strong it is and if and when it develops a weakness or breaks down.



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#1362 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:54 pm

HWRF looks to be a hair further north of Puerto Rico on 18z vs 12z.
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Models

#1363 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:56 pm

In my opinion, based on previous GFS failures, the upper air pattern is difficult and the GFS is probably wrong. Recurve is the most likely scenario but it seems timing si going to mean everything in this case. Timing of where the storm is and how fast it strengthens. THis is just my amateur opinion.

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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Models

#1364 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:58 pm

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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Models

#1365 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:59 pm

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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Models

#1366 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:01 pm

Could 18z GFS be hinting a loop?
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Models

#1367 Postby Bocadude85 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:07 pm

18zHWRF is north of the 12z so far
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Models

#1368 Postby Bocadude85 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:10 pm

I'm wondering if Erika could just stall out in the Bahamas before heading west at some point. Didn't the models do something similar with Frances before shifting back to a Florida hit?
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Models

#1369 Postby Steve » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:11 pm

Blown Away wrote:Could 18z GFS be hinting a loop?


What it ends up doing is drifting SE before getting picked up and out. Not sure that's how it would go exactly, and we don't know how high the heights will be with building high pressure over top. So it's really more wait a few days to see if a stall or loop or whatever is a legitimate possibility which many have been hinting at the last several days.
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#1370 Postby bahamaswx » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:13 pm

I think I've seen 50x more loops done by hurricanes in models than done by hurricanes in real life.
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Models

#1371 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:15 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:I'm wondering if Erika could just stall out in the Bahamas before heading west at some point. Didn't the models do something similar with Frances before shifting back to a Florida hit?


Frances forecast in the same general area...

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#1372 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:17 pm

The 18Z NAVGEM up nearly the entire east coast of Florida:

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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Models

#1373 Postby JPmia » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:22 pm

There's talk of center relocations, multiple vortices and possible dissipation so I am not sure any trend in the models can be trusted at the moment. I know the models account for a weakened state, but their initialization points might not be correct. Small changes in current location and track have large consequences down the road. I will say this, ordering hurricane supplies on Amazon has been one of the most delightful preparation strategies I have ever implemented.
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Models

#1374 Postby wzrgirl1 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:25 pm

Norcross on TWC just mentioned that one of the models showed a loop. Not sure which one. They were also discussing Bathymetry. Not sure what that is. Turned it on towards the end of the discussion.
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Models

#1375 Postby CronkPSU » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:25 pm

JPmia wrote:There's talk of center relocations, multiple vortices and possible dissipation so I am not sure any trend in the models can be trusted at the moment. I know the models account for a weakened state, but their initialization points might not be correct. Small changes in current location and track have large consequences down the road. I will say this, ordering hurricane supplies on Amazon has been one of the most delightful preparation strategies I have ever implemented.


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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Models

#1376 Postby Kohlecane » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:26 pm

wzrgirl1 wrote:Norcross on TWC just mentioned that one of the models showed a loop. Not sure which one. They were also discussing Bathymetry. Not sure what that is. Turned it on towards the end of the discussion.


Just literally did the same thing
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#1377 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:27 pm

18Z HWRF looks to have shifted even more east and it has done so with a weaker system too.

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#1378 Postby Bocadude85 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:31 pm

gatorcane wrote:18Z HWRF looks to have shifted even more east and it has done so with a weaker system too.

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Yup further northeast. Models really have shifted east. I would assume the NHC will follow suit at 11pm
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#1379 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:33 pm

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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Models

#1380 Postby N2FSU » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:34 pm

HWRF +90hr

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