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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2961 Postby CourierPR » Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:22 am

Bastardi says that Caribbean should supply an interesting end game to hurricane season next couple of weeks.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2962 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:45 am

I suspect that if the Euro is going to join GFS, it will start to show development in the Western Caribbean after the 11th of October. We will see if that will occur or it never develops.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2963 Postby blp » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:35 am

cycloneye wrote:I suspect that if the Euro is going to join GFS, it will start to show development in the Western Caribbean after the 11th of October. We will see if that will occur or it never develops.


The Euro is going out till 10/9 right now. I think the Euro is slightly behind the GFS because the MJO is forecast to arrive later. It has it arriving around the 13th or 14th, so I would suspect that if the Euro is going to show something it will start happening Monday or Tuesday when the model's long range is in that timeframe.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2964 Postby AJC3 » Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:43 pm

CourierPR wrote:Bastardi says that Caribbean should supply an interesting end game to hurricane season next couple of weeks.



So does climatology.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2965 Postby ROCK » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:19 pm

GFS has been pushing dates back for weeks now down in the carib. I have to agree with that Skeletor guy, if we dont see something pop soon I think the show is over for this year as far as a US CONUS landfall.... Westerlies already kicking in over the GOM and FL. Nice cool fronts dropping pretty far south now.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2966 Postby CourierPR » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:44 pm

ROCK wrote:GFS has been pushing dates back for weeks now down in the carib. I have to agree with that Skeletor guy, if we dont see something pop soon I think the show is over for this year as far as a US CONUS landfall.... Westerlies already kicking in over the GOM and FL. Nice cool fronts dropping pretty far south now.


Rock, we are still looking for one of those nice cool fronts here in south FL. It's not over yet.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2967 Postby StarmanHDB » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:12 pm

AJC3 wrote:
CourierPR wrote:Bastardi says that Caribbean should supply an interesting end game to hurricane season next couple of weeks.



So does climatology.


HA! Where would Joe Bastardi be without climatology?
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2968 Postby Ntxw » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:05 pm

CourierPR wrote:
ROCK wrote:GFS has been pushing dates back for weeks now down in the carib. I have to agree with that Skeletor guy, if we dont see something pop soon I think the show is over for this year as far as a US CONUS landfall.... Westerlies already kicking in over the GOM and FL. Nice cool fronts dropping pretty far south now.


Rock, we are still looking for one of those nice cool fronts here in south FL. It's not over yet.


It's coming this weekend for the top half of Florida. Upper 70s for high's and 50s lows around Orlando. It's getting closer!
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#2969 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:26 pm

Actually the fronts getting down into the southern GOM or Western Carib. can be triggers for tropical development as the trough lifts out.
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#2970 Postby hurricanetrack » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:57 pm

That Skeletor guy! I love it.

Yes, I think we will either see the operationals jump on development by mid-week next week or it's not going to happen at all. I am inclined to believe that we will see development and probably something significant for someone. Remember, a hurricane in the Caribbean almost has no "choice" but to hit someone- if not the U.S.

We have a lot going for this potential pulse with climatology and the MJO pulse coming coupled with the La Nina in place. Seems logical to at least expect development, just not sure as to how much or where it ends up. No one knows that....
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#2971 Postby bexar » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:46 pm

GFS is also forecasting potential Irwin to form within the next 10 days, similar track with Hilary.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2972 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:57 am

The Euro now jumps into the more favorable MJO status for the Atlantic,although the signal is weak. Does this means it will also jump on development in the climo favored Caribbean sometime in October?

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2973 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:00 pm

FYI,the 12z Euro has this in ten days. I dont think is what GFS has been showing,but is another disturbance that forms in the Caribbean.

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2974 Postby Steve H. » Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:12 pm

Looks like it develops from lower pressure in the caribbean under the big ridge to the north. Shows the low south of Cuba (intensifying) at day 10. :flag:

http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/ ... SLP240.gif

edit: fixed your link (changed it from 00Z to 12Z) - AJC3
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2975 Postby blp » Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:28 pm

:uarrow: Bingo, first run from the Euro showing development. It was earlier than what I expected but it is not surprising to me considering the trends. Let's see if it continues...
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2976 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:32 pm

blp wrote::uarrow: Bingo, first run from the Euro showing development. It was earlier than what I expected but it is not surprising to me considering the trends. Let's see if it continues...


Yes,I was kind of surprised when I saw it and as I said in my post above,I touught it was different from GFS in the timeframe.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2977 Postby KUEFC » Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:59 pm

Lets not get carried away guys its just one model run
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2978 Postby blp » Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:28 pm

KUEFC wrote:Lets not get carried away guys its just one model run


Nobody is getting carried away. We are commenting on the trend and this is the first time the Euro goes with the trend for development.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2979 Postby LarryWx » Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:49 pm

FWIW....not much at all.....the 18Z Fri gfs hits New England on 10/12 with Philippe. This the 1st run showing a CONUS hit. OMG, JB is going to go crazy lol.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2980 Postby KUEFC » Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:38 am

How good are the CMC and nogaps models for picking up development? both hinting at something in 144 hours.
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