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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#4861 Postby floridasun78 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:03 am

look at sw Caribbean their spin with any storm with it let see as move more west it start getting storms http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/flash-ir4.html
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#4862 Postby N2FSU » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:12 am

I know it's the CMC, so don't shoot the messenger! It's certainly staying consistent (which means nothing if it's wrong).

00Z CMC; 120hr. Early stages of development near western Cuba.

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#4863 Postby N2FSU » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:13 am

00Z CMC; 144hr

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#4864 Postby N2FSU » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:14 am

00Z CMC; 156hr

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#4865 Postby N2FSU » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:16 am

00Z CMC; 162hr. Stays with a Florida Panhandle landfall.

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#4866 Postby N2FSU » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:19 am

For comparison sake, here is the 06Z GFS at 156hr, same time as the last CMC I just posted (18Z Tuesday July 2).

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#4867 Postby N2FSU » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:25 am

00Z Euro; 168hr (00Z July 3)

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#4868 Postby Alyono » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:29 am

EC ensemble still has about the same probs as of yesterday afternoon
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#4869 Postby N2FSU » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:40 am

Alyono wrote:EC ensemble still has about the same probs as of yesterday afternoon


Was that about 50%?
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#4870 Postby Alyono » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:47 am

N2FSU wrote:
Alyono wrote:EC ensemble still has about the same probs as of yesterday afternoon


Was that about 50%?


yep
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#4871 Postby wxman57 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:02 am

I still don't buy the Canadian. Consensus is still for a weaker system that forms in the BoC and tracks west into Mexico. Looks reasonable for next week's potential system.
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#4872 Postby catskillfire51 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:35 am

the 06z GFS has a very weak low going across the northern caribbean islands around the same time frame as the CMC. but still forms the weak storm in the boc as well.
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#4873 Postby Rgv20 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:38 am

GFS Ensembles continue to show a high chance of TC Formation in the BOC in the 5 to 10 day range....Most of the ensemble show the same faith as Barry but maybe a tad more north. Hopefully this tropical air mass can sneak its way up to South Texas and bring us some much needed Rain :P


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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#4874 Postby NDG » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:54 am

I still think that if anything forms in the BOC it will track north towards TX, there is nothing to push it west towards MX.
Last night's Canadian reminds me of its old self, lol.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#4875 Postby Ntxw » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:41 am

NDG wrote:I still think that if anything forms in the BOC it will track north towards TX, there is nothing to push it west towards MX.
Last night's Canadian reminds me of its old self, lol.


I agree with your thinking. The continental subtropical ridge is just too far West/NW to block anything down there. I wouldn't rule out a central gulf coast potentially entirely since it could very well ride the weak frontal boundary but generally agree the weakness between the ridge and trough is a good magnet which is up the TX or SW LA coast. More east than west if it forms over the Yucatan straight vs BOC.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#4876 Postby OuterBanker » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:45 am

I’ll have to agree with wxman on the Canadian. My Canadian Coup posting a while back was half in jest. We all know that the CMC spins so many spurious storms that we would ask what happens after the Greek alphabet. I’m asking myself today is that not a repost of Andrea on the latest Canadian?

Personally, until the Euro shows something I don’t even pay attention. GFS long term is still questionable.

Btw, although we have never and probably will never have to answer this question. What does happen after the Greek alphabet?
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#4877 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:46 am

We have to get a trigger for cyclogenesis to start something. It could be from Tropical Wave now in Eastern Caribbean,from Monsoon Trough or a combination by both features. We will know in the next 3-4 days if something gets going in BOC or NW Caribbean.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#4878 Postby wxman57 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:48 am

OuterBanker wrote:...Btw, although we have never and probably will never have to answer this question. What does happen after the Greek alphabet?


We begin to rebuild.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#4879 Postby Portastorm » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:08 am

Ntxw wrote:
NDG wrote:I still think that if anything forms in the BOC it will track north towards TX, there is nothing to push it west towards MX.
Last night's Canadian reminds me of its old self, lol.


I agree with your thinking. The continental subtropical ridge is just too far West/NW to block anything down there. I wouldn't rule out a central gulf coast potentially entirely since it could very well ride the weak frontal boundary but generally agree the weakness between the ridge and trough is a good magnet which is up the TX or SW LA coast. More east than west if it forms over the Yucatan straight vs BOC.


The last few European runs have shown significant troughing developing of Texas by next week. Should that verify, it would seem such a large area of lower pressures would bring any disturbance more poleward. But I'm sure wxman57 has his reasons for thinking it stays south and he gets paid for his reasons ... I don't! :wink:
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#4880 Postby Javlin » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:20 am

wxman57 wrote:
OuterBanker wrote:...Btw, although we have never and probably will never have to answer this question. What does happen after the Greek alphabet?


We begin to rebuild.


Thats funny :lol:
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