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#7161 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:08 pm

Long-range CFS shows a very active period for the end of August through first three weeks of September:

Long Range CFS
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#7162 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:21 pm

gatorcane wrote:Long-range CFS shows a very active period for the end of August through first three weeks of September:

Long Range CFS


To let you know that I made the link to the long range CFS as a hyperlink to not have it very long.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#7163 Postby chaser1 » Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:01 pm

Looking at the varying maps (500 mb level), it appeared to me that the Euro & GFS both seemed to indicate fairly strong mid level ridging over the W. U.S. and east of Florida. There are varying details of course such as how far south the GFS indicated troughing along the U.S. East coast, contrary to the Euro, but overall 592 heights over the W. Atlantic seemed fairly prevalent. Oddly, the CMC (as mentioned, now picking up increased Atlantic tropical activity) 500mb run looked quite different with the primary W. Atlantic high displaced much further north and east.
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#7164 Postby somethingfunny » Mon Aug 11, 2014 5:30 pm

I would not worry about the upper air setup at 384 hours out. :lol: If that storm actually exists at that point (I see little reason why something wouldn't be brewing by then) it could be literally anywhere in the basin. Even taking the run verbatim though I can't imagine a storm hitting the US from that location no matter how strong the ridge might appear to be.
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#7165 Postby ninel conde » Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:52 pm

gatorcane wrote:Long-range CFS shows a very active period for the end of August through first three weeks of September:

Long Range CFS



all i saw was a few very weak lows.
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#7166 Postby WPBWeather » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:40 pm

ninel conde wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Long-range CFS shows a very active period for the end of August through first three weeks of September:

Long Range CFS



all i saw was a few very weak lows.


Then you looked at the wrong page.
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#7167 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:45 pm

ninel conde wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Long-range CFS shows a very active period for the end of August through first three weeks of September:

Long Range CFS



all i saw was a few very weak lows.


the resolution in that model mean that those weak lows are probably a lot stronger than being modeled and with a few hurricanes due to that
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#7168 Postby ConvergenceZone » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:49 pm

gatorcane wrote:Long-range CFS shows a very active period for the end of August through first three weeks of September:

Long Range CFS




It BETTER be active for those three weeks, if not, say goodbye to hurricane season until 2015..............
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#7169 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:00 am

For being in the peak weeks of the season (August 28) to have only a weak TD on the GFS map is not a good sign for the North Atlantic to have plenty of activity.

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#7170 Postby CFLHurricane » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:20 am

cycloneye wrote:For being in the peak weeks of the season (August 28) to have only a weak TD on the GFS map is not a good sign for the North Atlantic to have plenty of activity.


Yeah if we don't get a couple more storms before the end of August i think it will be safe to declare this season dead.
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#7171 Postby ninel conde » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:26 am

cycloneye wrote:For being in the peak weeks of the season (August 28) to have only a weak TD on the GFS map is not a good sign for the North Atlantic to have plenty of activity.

http://oi57.tinypic.com/dqm3br.jpg



i would be surprised if any type of circulation could form in these awful conditions. i think things just get worse from here through oct. i dont know what jb is looking at to say the tropics will get active, except climatology.
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#7172 Postby Alyono » Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:32 am

you say the same exact thing every day, ninel, and without any meteorological backing
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#7173 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:40 am

cycloneye wrote:UKMET is upgraded

If the upgrade of UKMET works good,then GFS and ECMWF may have good company as a third altrernative to look at when modeling of Tropical Cyclones is concerned.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/s ... i_v2.0.pdf


Where can we find a good link to the upgraded UMKET model runs for the Atlantic basin like we have for the other global models? The UKMET on the PENN state EWALL site only goes out to 24 hours (http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/ewalltropatl.html).
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#7174 Postby Alyono » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:01 am

I believe you have to fork over $$ for the full UKMET now
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#7175 Postby WPBWeather » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:43 am

Alyono wrote:you say the same exact thing every day, ninel, and without any meteorological backing



I agree. And with all us other NON Pro Mets, means we might be right 50% of the time overall. :)
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#7176 Postby South Texas Storms » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:43 am

gatorcane wrote:
cycloneye wrote:UKMET is upgraded

If the upgrade of UKMET works good,then GFS and ECMWF may have good company as a third altrernative to look at when modeling of Tropical Cyclones is concerned.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/s ... i_v2.0.pdf


Where can we find a good link to the upgraded UMKET model runs for the Atlantic basin like we have for the other global models? The UKMET on the PENN state EWALL site only goes out to 24 hours (http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/ewalltropatl.html).


Here's a couple of good UKMET model sites that I like to use:

http://ruc.noaa.gov/hfip/tcgen/

http://meteocentre.com/models/models.php?lang=en&mod=ukmet
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#7177 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:47 am

Biggest things I took from the long range CFS run were a lot of continued troughing off the east coast and absolutely nothing going homebrew wise.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#7178 Postby blp » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:54 am

South Texas Storms wrote:
gatorcane wrote:
cycloneye wrote:UKMET is upgraded

If the upgrade of UKMET works good,then GFS and ECMWF may have good company as a third altrernative to look at when modeling of Tropical Cyclones is concerned.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/s ... i_v2.0.pdf


Where can we find a good link to the upgraded UMKET model runs for the Atlantic basin like we have for the other global models? The UKMET on the PENN state EWALL site only goes out to 24 hours (http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/ewalltropatl.html).


Here's a couple of good UKMET model sites that I like to use:

http://ruc.noaa.gov/hfip/tcgen/



http://meteocentre.com/models/models.php?lang=en&mod=ukmet


Thank you for posting that. At least it has 5 day forecast which is great.
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#7179 Postby Alyono » Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:01 am

Models indicating a likely Hawaii threat next Monday and Tuesday
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#7180 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:35 am

Alyono wrote:Models indicating a likely Hawaii threat next Monday and Tuesday

From Invest 99E?
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