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#121 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:53 pm

The white is now fully wrapped around and in the most recent SSD frame, even has a CMG ring. Still a T6.5, but looks very close to T7.0.
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#122 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:53 pm

Latest SSD ADT:

2015SEP26 171400 6.9 916.8 137.4 6.9 7.2 7.2 NO LIMIT OFF OFF 14.02 -77.77 EYE 29 IR 68.7 22.08 -128.18 COMBO MTSAT2 32.1
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#123 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Sep 26, 2015 1:03 pm

I'd probably go 120 kt but would be ok with 110 kt or above (considering the 95 kt at 12Z).
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#124 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Sep 26, 2015 1:09 pm

1900hurricane wrote:I'd probably go 120 kt but would be ok with 110 kt or above (considering the 95 kt at 12Z).


Doubt it was 95 knots at 12z. In reality, likely around 105-110 knots. Now, this is around 125-130 knots IMO.
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#125 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Sep 26, 2015 1:12 pm

Yeah, I would have gone 100 or 105 kt at 12Z. For 18Z, I'd hold 5 kt under what what would usually be used for a T6.5 just because the eye is still a little ragged, but Dujuan is undoubtably becoming quite intense.

I know they don't do Dvorak analysis on the Himawari-8 images, but here is the 1730Z BD frame.

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#126 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Sep 26, 2015 1:20 pm

Wow, JTWC's DT was a 7.0 (but not going with it).

TPPN10 PGTW 261815

A. TYPHOON 21W (DUJUAN)

B. 26/1732Z

C. 22.24N

D. 128.15E

E. FIVE/MTSAT

F. T6.0/6.0/D1.5/24HRS STT: D1.0/03HRS

G. IR/EIR

H. REMARKS: 34A/PBO LARGE EYE/ANMTN. WMG EYE SURROUNDED BY 30NM
WHITE RING (+1.0 EYE ADJUSTMENT CMG) YIELDS A DT OF 7.0. MET
AND PT YIELD A 6.0. DBO PT/CONSTRAINTS.

I. ADDITIONAL POSITIONS:
26/1230Z 21.98N 128.90E MMHS


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#127 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Sep 26, 2015 1:25 pm

1900hurricane wrote:Yeah, I would have gone 100 or 105 kt at 12Z. For 18Z, I'd hold 5 kt under what what would usually be used for a T6.5 just because the eye is still a little ragged, but Dujuan is undoubtably becoming quite intense.

I know they don't do Dvorak analysis on the Himawari-8 images, but here is the 1730Z BD frame.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/product ... 261730.jpg


Pretty close to the MSAT frame.

At 1730z, DT clearly reached T7.0 and JTWc had no choice but to go with a DT of T7.0.

If they had given this an FT of T6.0 or T5.5, the FT could be T6.5 or T7.0. 8.1.2 ADT is at 6.9, which would support 140 knots.
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#128 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:14 pm

JMA is at 85 kt for 18Z but doesn't forecast any more strengthening.

TY 1521 (DUJUAN)
Issued at 18:45 UTC, 26 September 2015

<Analyses at 26/18 UTC>
Scale -
Intensity Very Strong
Center position N22°20'(22.3°)
E128°05'(128.1°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 15km/h(8kt)
Central pressure 945hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 45m/s(85kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 60m/s(120kt)
Area of 50kt winds or more ALL150km(80NM)
Area of 30kt winds or more ALL460km(250NM)

<Forecast for 27/06 UTC>
Intensity Very Strong
Center position of probability circle N22°50'(22.8°)
E126°30'(126.5°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 15km/h(8kt)
Central pressure 940hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 45m/s(85kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 60m/s(120kt)
Radius of probability circle 90km(50NM)
Storm warning area ALL260km(140NM)

<Forecast for 27/18 UTC>
Intensity Very Strong
Center position of probability circle N23°20'(23.3°)
E124°40'(124.7°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 15km/h(9kt)
Central pressure 940hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 45m/s(85kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 60m/s(120kt)
Radius of probability circle 130km(70NM)
Storm warning area ALL300km(160NM)

<Forecast for 28/18 UTC>
Intensity Strong
Center position of probability circle N24°30'(24.5°)
E120°40'(120.7°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 20km/h(10kt)
Central pressure 955hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 40m/s(75kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 55m/s(105kt)
Radius of probability circle 200km(110NM)
Storm warning area ALL350km(190NM)

<Forecast for 29/18 UTC>
Intensity -
Center position of probability circle N26°25'(26.4°)
E116°25'(116.4°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 20km/h(11kt)
Central pressure 992hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 23m/s(45kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 35m/s(65kt)
Radius of probability circle 390km(210NM)
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Re: WPAC: DUJUAN - Typhoon

#129 Postby euro6208 » Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:19 pm

Upgraded to a Category 3!

21W DUJUAN 150926 1800 22.1N 128.1E WPAC 105 944
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#130 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:20 pm

85 knts 10 min would be T5.5 on their Koba Table, or 100 knts 1 min.

Looking at recent frames, this has maintained a CMG ring. However, the eye needs to become more circular, and CDO needs to smoothen a little more. Don't feel comfortable thinking this is a Cat 5 until then, but it is def close.
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#131 Postby euro6208 » Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:22 pm

Wrapping that convection for the first time. Bad news for Taiwan.

Wouldn't be surprised if this made a run to Cat 5.

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#132 Postby euro6208 » Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:36 pm

UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 8.2.1
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 26 SEP 2015 Time : 183000 UTC
Lat : 22:09:18 N Lon : 128:07:53 E


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
6.5 / 926.1mb/127.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
6.3 6.3 6.3

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 36 km

Center Temp : +10.3C Cloud Region Temp : -76.4C

Scene Type : LARGE EYE

Positioning Method : SPIRAL ANALYSIS

Ocean Basin : WEST PACIFIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : CKZ Method

Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : NO LIMIT
Weakening Flag : ON
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF

C/K/Z MSLP Estimate Inputs :
- Average 34 knot radii : 145km
- Environmental MSLP : 1004mb

Satellite Name : MTSAT2
Satellite Viewing Angle : 32.2 degrees
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#133 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:41 pm

JTWC went with 105 kt. Not what I would have done.
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#134 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:10 pm

1900hurricane wrote:JTWC went with 105 kt. Not what I would have done.

Completely unsupported. Their own agency gave T6.0/115kt, and that's only because of constraints. DT was T7.0/140kt.

Ugh. What's new from them?
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#135 Postby mrbagyo » Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:13 pm

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Just needs to address the issue of the raggedness of the eye and it'll be ready to go (to cat 5).
Ill go with 125 to 130 for now.
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#136 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Sep 26, 2015 5:35 pm

A bit warming on the west side now. No Cat 5 in the short-term.
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#137 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:16 pm

7.7 raw isn't 145 knts. Maue tweeted ADT was 7.3 raw, but admitted that was too high.
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#138 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:01 pm

spiral wrote::uarrow: 1 i know 7.7 is not 145. i have seen better looking cat3's my learned friend i was actually looking at some compassion's with epac /cpac storms had to give up hard to find graphic's just pages of ships and cimss adt spamming.


I know what you mean. Dujuan isn't as organized or smooth, but it has colder clouds tops and a warmer eye than most Category 3 hurricanes. So the intensity is somewhat tough to asses here.

Easiest way to find images for TC's is just through the NRL site. http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tcdat/
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#139 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:35 pm

Microwave presentation is very good.

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#140 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:57 pm

JMA is up to 100 kt at 00Z, which corresponds to a CI of 6.5. Much better in my opinion.

TY 1521 (DUJUAN)
Issued at 00:45 UTC, 27 September 2015

<Analyses at 27/00 UTC>
Scale -
Intensity Very Strong
Center position N22°20'(22.3°)
E127°30'(127.5°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 15km/h(7kt)
Central pressure 925hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 50m/s(100kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 70m/s(140kt)
Area of 50kt winds or more ALL190km(100NM)
Area of 30kt winds or more ALL460km(250NM)

<Forecast for 27/12 UTC>
Intensity Very Strong
Center position of probability circle N22°40'(22.7°)
E126°00'(126.0°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 15km/h(7kt)
Central pressure 925hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 50m/s(100kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 70m/s(140kt)
Radius of probability circle 90km(50NM)
Storm warning area ALL280km(150NM)

<Forecast for 28/00 UTC>
Intensity Very Strong
Center position of probability circle N23°30'(23.5°)
E124°00'(124.0°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 20km/h(10kt)
Central pressure 925hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 50m/s(100kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 70m/s(140kt)
Radius of probability circle 130km(70NM)
Storm warning area ALL310km(170NM)

<Forecast for 29/00 UTC>
Intensity Strong
Center position of probability circle N24°50'(24.8°)
E119°25'(119.4°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 20km/h(11kt)
Central pressure 965hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 35m/s(65kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 50m/s(95kt)
Radius of probability circle 260km(140NM)
Storm warning area ALL390km(210NM)

<Forecast for 30/00 UTC>
Intensity -
Center position of probability circle N27°30'(27.5°)
E115°35'(115.6°)
Direction and speed of movement NW 20km/h(11kt)
Central pressure 996hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 20m/s(40kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 30m/s(60kt)
Radius of probability circle 390km(210NM)
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