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#21 Postby Alyono » Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:15 am

to my surprise, IMD has called this a depression as well
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ARABIAN SEA: 04 - Depression (INVEST 94A)

#22 Postby jaguarjace » Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:30 am

Time of issue: 1130 hours IST
Dated: 28.10.2015
Bulletin No.: ARB04/2015/01

Sub: Depression over southeast Arabian Sea

Latest satellite imagery and available observations indicate that a Depression has
formed over southeast Arabian Sea and adjoining areas of southwest and central Arabian
Sea and lay centered at 0830 hrs IST of today, the 28th October 2015 near Latitude
11.5°N and longitude 65.0°E, about 1200 km southwest of Mumbai and about 1320 km
southeast of Salalah (Oman). It would move north-northwestwards and intensify into a
Deep Depression during next 24 hours and into a Cyclonic Storm during subsequent 24
hours. It would then move westwards towards Yemen and adjoining Oman coast.
As the system is expected to move away from the Indian coast, no adverse weather
is expected along and off west coast of India. However, the fishermen over Lakshadweep
area are advised to be cautious while venturing into the sea during next 24 hours.

Next bulletin will be issued at 2030hrs IST of today, the 28th October, 2015

http://www.rsmcnewdelhi.imd.gov.in/images/bulletin/indian.pdf
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#23 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:38 am

Alyono wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:
So it's not going to be like that system that formed earlier this summer (July?) but eventually dissipated?


unfortunately no. This could get quite intense as well. EC is taking this down to about 943mb before it weakens to about 986 at landfall as it rides along the coast for about 18 hours

Given this is a desert, this is a rain threat


Aah. I think I'll start warning my folks back home soon. Wind + Rain + Sand will be terrible if it makes it well inland.
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#24 Postby Alyono » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:21 am

Kingarabian wrote:
Alyono wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:
So it's not going to be like that system that formed earlier this summer (July?) but eventually dissipated?


unfortunately no. This could get quite intense as well. EC is taking this down to about 943mb before it weakens to about 986 at landfall as it rides along the coast for about 18 hours

Given this is a desert, this is a rain threat


Aah. I think I'll start warning my folks back home soon. Wind + Rain + Sand will be terrible if it makes it well inland.


you're from Yemen?
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#25 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:33 am

Alyono wrote:
you're from Yemen?


I have family in Saudia Arabia and close friends in Yemen. I think they should be fine but they just had a massive sandstorm, and a storm that caused massive winds/gusts.
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Re: ARABIAN SEA: Tropical Depression ARB04

#26 Postby wxman57 » Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:28 am

Morning Dvorak is 2.5, which is a tropical storm. ASCAT continues to miss the system. It did graze the eastern edge and there were a number of 30kt winds, but it missed the heavier convection. I think it's a TS now though IMD says it has winds <27kts (i.e., not a "well-marked depression" yet). It's more than "well-marked", it's a tropical storm.
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Re: ARABIAN SEA: Tropical Depression ARB04

#27 Postby mrbagyo » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:24 am

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Too organized for a "TD"
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#28 Postby NotoSans » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:27 am

T2.0 from IMD. Expect an upgrade to deep depression soon.
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#29 Postby Dave C » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:07 am

Another storm with insane outflow! :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: ARABIAN SEA: Deep Depression ARB04

#30 Postby wxman57 » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:21 am

Deep depression? How about rapidly-strengthening tropical storm?
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Re: ARABIAN SEA: Deep Depression ARB04

#31 Postby mrbagyo » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:25 am

wxman57 wrote:Deep depression? How about rapidly-strengthening tropical storm?


certainly, look at that developing eyewall
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I wonder, could this dethrone Gonu??
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#32 Postby 1900hurricane » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:12 pm

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#33 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:24 pm

NotoSans wrote:T2.0 from IMD. Expect an upgrade to deep depression soon.


Where do you get IMD Dvorak numbers from?
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#34 Postby wxman57 » Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:45 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:Where do you get IMD Dvorak numbers from?


Go to the IMD website, mouse-over the red dot and click "Read More" in the pop-up box that appears. Their discussion mentions the T-number.

Perhaps the IMD should look at the 1630Z ASCAT pass that had many 40kt and one 45kt wind. This is no "deep depression".

http://www.rsmcnewdelhi.imd.gov.in/index.php?lang=en
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Re: ARABIAN SEA: Deep Depression ARB04

#35 Postby jaguarjace » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:22 pm

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Re: ARABIAN SEA: Deep Depression ARB04

#36 Postby wxman57 » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:31 pm

The IMD isn't even forecasting it to become a hurricane. They're forecasting winds to reach 100-120 kph (54-65 kts) in 48-60 hours then remain at that intensity through 120 hrs. 120 kph does equal 65 kts, but they identify the cyclone as "Severe Tropical Cyclone", which is 53-63 kts, I believe. I'll bet it is a hurricane in 24-36 hrs and a major hurricane within 48-72 hrs.

IMD forecast:
http://www.rsmcnewdelhi.imd.gov.in/images/cyclone_pdfs/indian_1446061884.pdf
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Re: ARABIAN SEA: Deep Depression ARB04

#37 Postby wxman57 » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:39 pm

jaguarjace wrote:http://i.imgur.com/UZYkd08.gif


Where are you finding JTWC's track? I can't find one on their website or on the Monterrey site.
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Re: ARABIAN SEA: Tropical Cyclone 04A

#38 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:54 pm

21:00 UTC track.

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#39 Postby Grifforzer » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:16 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:
NotoSans wrote:T2.0 from IMD. Expect an upgrade to deep depression soon.


Where do you get IMD Dvorak numbers from?


http://www.rsmcnewdelhi.imd.gov.in/images/satelliteImage/description.pdf

Satellite bulletin description page. It shows Dvorak intensity descriptions for the Arabian, Bay of Bengal/Andaman Sea, Southwestern Indian Ocean, and Western Pacific (Philippines westward towards Thailand region)
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Re: ARABIAN SEA: Deep Depression ARB04

#40 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:21 pm

wxman57 wrote:The IMD isn't even forecasting it to become a hurricane. They're forecasting winds to reach 100-120 kph (54-65 kts) in 48-60 hours then remain at that intensity through 120 hrs. 120 kph does equal 65 kts, but they identify the cyclone as "Severe Tropical Cyclone", which is 53-63 kts, I believe. I'll bet it is a hurricane in 24-36 hrs and a major hurricane within 48-72 hrs.

IMD forecast:
http://www.rsmcnewdelhi.imd.gov.in/images/cyclone_pdfs/indian_1446061884.pdf


Why do they even do that? Like, do they have access to data that points otherwise? Or do they normally under forecast storms?
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