ATL: MATTHEW - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1441 Postby Kazmit » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:46 pm

TimeZone wrote:Kind of surprised they didn't find stronger winds in the NE quad there. Decent pressure fall, however.

The wind needs to catch up with the pressure falling. I'll give it around six hours before the wind starts picking up significantly.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1442 Postby TimeZone » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:48 pm

Kazmit_ wrote:
TimeZone wrote:Kind of surprised they didn't find stronger winds in the NE quad there. Decent pressure fall, however.

The wind needs to catch up with the pressure falling. I'll give it around six hours before the wind starts picking up significantly.


Fair enough, I was just expecting a slight increase. I don't doubt that they'll catch up shortly. Storm is looking more and more impressive each frame. If Shear falls as much as currently forecast, I can't see anything preventing Matthew from attaining Major Hurricane status.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1443 Postby tatertawt24 » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:50 pm

This seems like it might be one of those storms that has a huge pressure drop while it gets itself together, and then once it's ready, its winds catch up within the blink of an eye. I remember Katrina did that (not that this storm is going to be ANYTHING like Katrina--I'm just saying that that weird kind of delay isn't terribly uncommon).
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1444 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:52 pm

The headline says it all.

...HURRICANE MATTHEW GRADUALLY BECOMING BETTER ORGANIZED...
...HEADING FOR THE CENTRAL CARIBBEAN SEA...


SUMMARY OF 800 PM AST...0000 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...14.2N 68.1W
ABOUT 150 MI...240 KM NNE OF CURACAO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...75 MPH...120 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 270 DEGREES AT 15 MPH...24 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...987 MB...29.15 INCHES
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1445 Postby NDG » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:53 pm

MaineWeatherNut wrote:
NDG wrote:
MaineWeatherNut wrote:Pressure is now down below 985mb

232730 1422N 06758W 6963 03033 9852 +143 +073 128019 025 040 004 00


Keep in mind that is flying at 700mb so that reading could be way off, have to wait for VDM.


We will see. But if that is correct that's a pretty big pressure drop.


VDM:

H. 988 mb

Is still a nice drop though.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1446 Postby psyclone » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:55 pm

Matthew looks sufficiently organized for a spurt of rapid intensification at any time. A very impressive system indeed.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1447 Postby Hurrilurker » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:57 pm

Last few frames on satellite it's starting to look less constrained on the west and south sides, outflow pushing outwards again, shear maybe decreasing. Still kind of rough but looking better and better.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1448 Postby SunnyThoughts » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:59 pm

L. OPEN S recon vdm reporting an eye now, open to the south.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1449 Postby abajan » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:59 pm

cycloneye wrote:The headline says it all.

...HURRICANE MATTHEW GRADUALLY BECOMING BETTER ORGANIZED...

I would've just stated that it's becoming better organized, and omitted "gradually". But they're the experts.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1450 Postby Rail Dawg » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:03 pm

jlauderdal wrote:wilma was our last hit in sofla....long time ago...this west trend is concerning today and it appears to be continuing...another 24 hours of this and we will really have to start considering a sofla strike



You're right. Do you remember Floyd as a CAT 5 in 1999 heading right for the heart of Florida? And at the last minute it veered and slammed into N. Carolina as a Cat 2?

Third largest evacuation in history behind Gustav (I was there in New Iberia, LA) and Rita (I was there in Houston).

I was on the coast south of Jacksonville and man was there panic. I was loaded with plenty of supplies to survive it but I felt really bad for those who simply didn't have the means to prepare.

Matthew could very well be a Fish but I won't be comfortable until at least Sunday.

We're going to know soon!
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1451 Postby drewschmaltz » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:05 pm

Rail Dawg wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:wilma was our last hit in sofla....long time ago...this west trend is concerning today and it appears to be continuing...another 24 hours of this and we will really have to start considering a sofla strike



You're right. Do you remember Floyd as a CAT 5 in 1999 heading right for the heart of Florida? And at the last minute it veered and slammed into N. Carolina as a Cat 2?

Third largest evacuation in history behind Gustav (I was there in New Iberia, LA) and Rita (I was there in Houston).

I was on the coast south of Jacksonville and man was there panic. I was loaded with plenty of supplies to survive it but I felt really bad for those who simply didn't have the means to prepare.

Matthew could very well be a Fish but I won't be comfortable until at least Sunday.

We're going to know soon!


I surfed Floyd at New Smyrna. We ran inside every half hour to make sure it was gunna turn. Boy it got close. I'm 31 now so that would have been at the young age of 14.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1452 Postby SeGaBob » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:07 pm

wxmann_91 wrote:Anyone down to play?

http://i.imgur.com/uQQqWKT.png


Most people know what I'm going with here. :)
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1453 Postby Rail Dawg » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:13 pm

drewschmaltz wrote:I surfed Floyd at New Smyrna. We ran inside every half hour to make sure it was gunna turn. Boy it got close. I'm 31 now so that would have been at the young age of 14.



That's a great story!

Matthew is in the barrel next.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1454 Postby robbielyn » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:13 pm

SeGaBob wrote:
wxmann_91 wrote:Anyone down to play?

http://i.imgur.com/uQQqWKT.png


Most people know what I'm going with here. :)

let me guess, hmm uh eeny meeny mynee moe East of Bermuda!
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1455 Postby Hammy » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:14 pm

SeGaBob wrote:
wxmann_91 wrote:Anyone down to play?

http://i.imgur.com/uQQqWKT.png


Most people know what I'm going with here. :)


I'll take "Matthew is struggling from the shear" for the win. :D

That said, while the radar presentation appears better than it did earlier, this isn't looking great on IR--the CDO seems more amorphic and broken than it did earlier. Recon is sending mixed signals as well, both pressure and winds are reduced--could this be a result of a weakened low-level jet so the intensity has to come entirely from the storm itself?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#1456 Postby Rail Dawg » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:17 pm

abajan wrote:Our met office has issued this weather bulletin. (If the page doesn't load, try this one and then click the link in the scrolling text near the top of the screen.)

By the way, I have no idea why the first URL has "Planet of Apes". :lol:



Good work.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1457 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:17 pm

Rail Dawg wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:wilma was our last hit in sofla....long time ago...this west trend is concerning today and it appears to be continuing...another 24 hours of this and we will really have to start considering a sofla strike



You're right. Do you remember Floyd as a CAT 5 in 1999 heading right for the heart of Florida? And at the last minute it veered and slammed into N. Carolina as a Cat 2?

Third largest evacuation in history behind Gustav (I was there in New Iberia, LA) and Rita (I was there in Houston).

I was on the coast south of Jacksonville and man was there panic. I was loaded with plenty of supplies to survive it but I felt really bad for those who simply didn't have the means to prepare.

Matthew could very well be a Fish but I won't be comfortable until at least Sunday.

We're going to know soon!


yep...i had to shutter up for floyd as i am a mile off the beach...i could hear the police in lauderdale by the sea on loudpseakers announcing the evacuation as i was hoisting hurricane panels..we had to prepare for a direct hit...it behaved and we had a sunny day as it passed to our east
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1458 Postby robbielyn » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:18 pm

Hammy wrote:
SeGaBob wrote:
wxmann_91 wrote:Anyone down to play?

http://i.imgur.com/uQQqWKT.png


Most people know what I'm going with here. :)


I'll take "Matthew is struggling from the shear" for the win. :D

That said, while the radar presentation appears better than it did earlier, this isn't looking great on IR--the CDO seems more amorphic and broken than it did earlier. Recon is sending mixed signals as well, both pressure and winds are reduced--could this be a result of a weakened low-level jet so the intensity has to come entirely from the storm itself?

Sorry Hammy I already took that one. But it has been dealing with sheer levi said it would as it crossed north of CA. Should look better tomorrow.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1459 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:19 pm

drewschmaltz wrote:
Rail Dawg wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:wilma was our last hit in sofla....long time ago...this west trend is concerning today and it appears to be continuing...another 24 hours of this and we will really have to start considering a sofla strike



You're right. Do you remember Floyd as a CAT 5 in 1999 heading right for the heart of Florida? And at the last minute it veered and slammed into N. Carolina as a Cat 2?

Third largest evacuation in history behind Gustav (I was there in New Iberia, LA) and Rita (I was there in Houston).

I was on the coast south of Jacksonville and man was there panic. I was loaded with plenty of supplies to survive it but I felt really bad for those who simply didn't have the means to prepare.

Matthew could very well be a Fish but I won't be comfortable until at least Sunday.

We're going to know soon!


I surfed Floyd at New Smyrna. We ran inside every half hour to make sure it was gunna turn. Boy it got close. I'm 31 now so that would have been at the young age of 14.


it was a crazy time....it was all about the turn which obviously you cant trust until it actually happens when its that close
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1460 Postby pcolaman » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:19 pm

Hammy wrote:
SeGaBob wrote:
wxmann_91 wrote:Anyone down to play?

http://i.imgur.com/uQQqWKT.png


Most people know what I'm going with here. :)


I'll take "Matthew is struggling from the shear" for the win. :D

That said, while the radar presentation appears better than it did earlier, this isn't looking great on IR--the CDO seems more amorphic and broken than it did earlier. Recon is sending mixed signals as well, both pressure and winds are reduced--could this be a result of a weakened low-level jet so the intensity has to come entirely from the storm itself?




Or is it a slow down to start wrapping the tremendous amount of moisture around itself?
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