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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1561 Postby stormreader » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:11 pm

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stormreader wrote:Might sound funny, but what with the model spread and the large shifts we've already seen, I just think that the Northern Gulf Coast really has to keep an eye on this.


Northern Gulf Coast definitely should watch. I am sticking with Yucatán Channel into the Gulf of Mexico. Just an amateur opinion.

Here we go....I was worried I would start reading Northern Gulf Coast posts. God and Mother Nature will always stay pissed off at New Orleans. And after all, and "as they say" if you're in the bulls eye this far out....you're safe.

Not necessarily New Orleans, just northern Gulf Coast. It's not far fetched for the system to make it toward the Yucatan Channel area. Confidence in the present forecast is rather low. A storm that makes it to the western tip of Cuba would necessarily make one take a look at the Northern Gulf Coast.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1562 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:12 pm

Great post Steve,

And the best way to view this. This will be a long process until anyone really knows where this will end up. So many variables to consider is it faster , slower. Does it dip SW does the weakness pull it directly north, Does it get shoved back west. Wow just so many possibilities, going to be a very long week or so ahead.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1563 Postby stormreader » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:20 pm

Miami Storm Tracker wrote:Great post Steve,

And the best way to view this. This will be a long process until anyone really knows where this will end up. So many variables to consider is it faster , slower. Does it dip SW does the weakness pull it directly north, Does it get shoved back west. Wow just so many possibilities, going to be a very long week or so ahead.

Don't want to make light of damage and potential for loss of life, but purely from a scientific view, this could be one of the most interesting storms to forecast in years. Complex situation, model disparity, and possible late season major hurricane. Very interesting.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1564 Postby Steve » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:21 pm

For sure. Thanks. I didn't even mention a legitimate possibility of a west hook later on if it did take an Atlantic route. It seems we need more east coast impacts if we are really close to transitioning toward a quieter period or moving toward a -AMO. As an aside, Weatherbell is thinking both oceans are close to flipping to cold phases but possibly not all that extreme.

NAMs are out and the cut off is much farther west in the rust belt. Trough/cold pool filters down to TX and stars lifting out at 84hrs. Looks like it would have led to a hit east of here, but they don't go that far out.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1565 Postby WeatherEmperor » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:23 pm

00z Gfs starts in about 5. Any guesses what happens? More west...back east??


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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1566 Postby Bocadude85 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:26 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:00z Gfs starts in about 5. Any guesses what happens? More west...back east??


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It will probably throw a curveball and trend back east.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1567 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:28 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:00z Gfs starts in about 5. Any guesses what happens? More west...back east??


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A bit west and basically running up 75W longitude.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1568 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:30 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:00z Gfs starts in about 5. Any guesses what happens? More west...back east??


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It will show a NC landfall for the US.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1569 Postby WeatherEmperor » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:30 pm

Here we go

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1570 Postby Socalhurcnegirl227 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:31 pm

Steve wrote:For sure. Thanks. I didn't even mention a legitimate possibility of a west hook later on if it did take an Atlantic route. It seems we need more east coast impacts if we are really close to transitioning toward a quieter period or moving toward a -AMO. As an aside, Weatherbell is thinking both oceans are close to flipping to cold phases but possibly not all that extreme.

NAMs are out and the cut off is much farther west in the rust belt. Trough/cold pool filters down to TX and stars lifting out at 84hrs. Looks like it would have led to a hit east of here, but they don't go that far out.

Last i read la nina was basically not happening and that the equatorial pacific just has barely cooled any to declare official la nina but it cooled just enough to not be el nino last i read this may be considered a nuetral trend for the pacific. Just today i was at the beach due to a horrible heat wave putting 100 plus degree weather at the shores which is not common for southern cali beaches that average 70-80 in summer. Was findig red lobsters and red crabs washed up on the beach i was at. The water is still warm compared to what it used to feel like. basically now its like the cool tap water you get out of your backyard hose that feels nice on a hot day so la nina remains to be foreseen here in these parts
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1571 Postby WeatherEmperor » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:35 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1572 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:36 pm

My thinking is GFS is going to slide ever so slightly to the west again, Just my thoughts.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1573 Postby WeatherEmperor » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:43 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1574 Postby txwatcher91 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:45 pm

Through hour 48 GFS appears slightly stronger and maybe a tad faster with 97L.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1575 Postby Hammy » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:46 pm

Will this be the first run with the recon data? I'm expecting weaker if so.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1576 Postby drewschmaltz » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:51 pm

Through 60 it looks faster souther stronger and all around worser.

Edit: Um, I wasn't using the tool exactly right. The runs are similar, but through 84 it's same strength, just a little faster, and maybe a hair more north.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1577 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:52 pm

Through 60, 00z taking 97L to 71.5ish? W vs 69W on the 18z 60hr run.. curious to see how this finishes out. Further west and stronger so far.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1578 Postby WeatherEmperor » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:52 pm

drewschmaltz wrote:Through 60 it looks faster souther stronger and all around worser.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1579 Postby WeatherEmperor » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:53 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#1580 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:57 pm

Think they mean it's better organized, but bad for who ever gets it.
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