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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1581 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:45 pm

Isn't that big blog slamming towards HR the one that had the unflagged 50kts winds?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1582 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:47 pm

Blown Away wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
gatorcane wrote:either the LLC is moving NW or that is a vort spinning out NE of Puerto Rico?

Clearly the mid-level and low-level circulations are not aligned. New convection firing along the northern periphery of the broad low.

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http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... display=12



it is the main llc just moving to fast to proce and significant west winds with out deep convection. should low way down in about 6 to 8 hours.

http://i66.tinypic.com/vdk6rl.jpg
18z TAFB sees 99L just off Hispaniola in 24 hours...


hispanola effect.. it either hits the shredder or it sucks in dry air from the mountains..either way its not good for development
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1583 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:48 pm

I find a hard time seeing how it will get that close to Hispaniola that TAFB shows. Assuming the LLC we have identified NE of Puerto Rico is the one, it looks like it will be able to clear Hispaniola easily. Loop:

http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... olor=black
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1584 Postby sunnyday » Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:51 pm

Does anyone here feel that this will not make a storm?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1585 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:53 pm

sunnyday wrote:Does anyone here feel that this will not make a storm?

There's always that possibility that it won't have enough time to organize.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1586 Postby hohnywx » Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:54 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
Blown Away wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:

it is the main llc just moving to fast to proce and significant west winds with out deep convection. should low way down in about 6 to 8 hours.

http://i66.tinypic.com/vdk6rl.jpg
18z TAFB sees 99L just off Hispaniola in 24 hours...


hispanola effect.. it either hits the shredder or it sucks in dry air from the mountains..either way its not good for development


I thought dry air only was an issue when a storm went to the south (because of downsloping)?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1587 Postby tropicwatch » Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:54 pm

Once it is pass Hispaniola, the upper level wind shear should be quite less. That is if there is a system left passing Hispaniola.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1588 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:56 pm

Floater from NHC. It seems the system is doing things in reverse - that is it is developing curved "bands" on the north and east side but the convection around the LLC is minimal. Also note LLC moving briskly to the NW gaining latitude north of the NE tip of Puerto Rico

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1589 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:59 pm

panamatropicwatch wrote:Once it is pass Hispaniola, the upper level wind shear should be quite less. That is if there is a system left passing Hispaniola.
if it makes it through then conditions improve...to be fair to the modeling didnt do much with this until later in the week...wxman57 pointed this out several days ago...we live in an era of instant gratification and we have seen many times systems in this area of the basin they dont usually develop fast if at all...this is fortunate because if they did there would be much more damage in the islands and the SE USA
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1590 Postby SoupBone » Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:02 pm

What is this flareup?

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1591 Postby wxman57 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:03 pm

Somewhere between the upper Texas coast and Bermuda still looks most likely. I suspect that the overnight runs will come up with a completely different solution, possibly farther west again.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1592 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:05 pm

SoupBone wrote:What is this flareup?

https://s14.postimg.org/opze2ktht/fiona.png


its whats left of fiona..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1593 Postby SoupBone » Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:05 pm

wxman57 wrote:Somewhere between the upper Texas coast and Bermuda still looks most likely. I suspect that the overnight runs will come up with a completely different solution, possibly farther west again.


I thought you said Brownsville and Bermuda? :lol:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1594 Postby Weatherboy1 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:05 pm

SoupBone wrote:What is this flareup?


I believe that is the remnants of Fiona interacting with the dying frontal boundary in its vicinity. A handful of models suggest she might redevelop, though I was and am still skeptical of it
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Recon Discussion

#1595 Postby MissKandi » Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:06 pm

When is the next Recon flight scheduled?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1596 Postby Bocadude85 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:07 pm

wxman57 wrote:Somewhere between the upper Texas coast and Bermuda still looks most likely. I suspect that the overnight runs will come up with a completely different solution, possibly farther west again.


What are your thought on this just maybe never developing? How about S.Fla impact? TD/weakTS?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1597 Postby rickybobby » Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:07 pm

Hype all ready starting in central Florida. Wesh 2 said that if it passes north of Hispaniola it had s strong change of turning into a ts or a hurricane. It hits Miami on Monday at 8 and hits Orlando on Tuesday. He said it's time to check your hurricane kit.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1598 Postby centuryv58 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:07 pm

wxman57 wrote:Somewhere between the upper Texas coast and Bermuda still looks most likely. I suspect that the overnight runs will come up with a completely different solution, possibly farther west again.


I remember your original forecast of this, and you still are correct!! It's very frustrating I'm sure for ProMets at the moment.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Recon Discussion

#1599 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:10 pm

MissKandi wrote:When is the next Recon flight scheduled?


Thursday at 10:00 AM.

NEXT MISSION INTO THIS SYSTEM DELAYING THE 25/1130Z
FIX FOR AN INVEST AT 25/1400Z.....ADDED
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1600 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:11 pm

wxman57 wrote:Somewhere between the upper Texas coast and Bermuda still looks most likely. I suspect that the overnight runs will come up with a completely different solution, possibly farther west again.



57 thus far just as you stated no development till it nears the Bahamas. Question? By then how do u prepare?
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