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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1821 Postby floridasun78 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:56 pm

'CaneFreak wrote:It's getting there. I would give it another 24-36 hours to get out of this zone of 35-40 knots of shear and it will ramp up quickly. Hope those folks down there are taking this threat seriously. They won't have much time to prepare for this one.

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its within my circle not exactly centered. :) i sometimes do that to show curvature the bands with the circle around the center. :)

who down their?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1822 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:56 pm

floridasun78 wrote:
'CaneFreak wrote:It's getting there. I would give it another 24-36 hours to get out of this zone of 35-40 knots of shear and it will ramp up quickly. Hope those folks down there are taking this threat seriously. They won't have much time to prepare for this one.

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its within my circle not exactly centered. :) i sometimes do that to show curvature the bands with the circle around the center. :)

who down their?

Us in Florida
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1823 Postby txwatcher91 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:59 pm

Intense convection still building and expanding. It's possible the LLC could get sucked under this or build enough convection until it gets out of the extreme shear. I've seen this many times with storms over the years. FWIW the Euro and NAM both really begin development Saturday morning.

Also a large amount of lightning beginning to show up in this burst of convection.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1824 Postby chaser1 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:01 pm

TheHook210 wrote:
SouthFLTropics wrote:Quick observation from Port St. Lucie, Florida...been in an NE to E flow all day. Storms have threatened and tonight they have arrived. My weather station is recording a rain rate of 1.28in/h right now. Winds have been steady out of the East at 5.0 MPH with gusts to 15.0. It's like we have a funnel overhead right now. Sporadic lightning and very loud thunder.


Same here near Cocoa Beach although most of our wind/rain was this morning. I was wondering if it was coming from ex Fiona.


I heard the same from my daughter in Jensen Beach; said it felt "very tropical"
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1825 Postby hurricanehunter69 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:02 pm

Javlin wrote:
hurricanehunter69 wrote:After two days of being badly stretched out and elongated, It's starting to look much better to me. Check out that inflow tail wrapping around from the southwest! I'm interested in seeing if it successfully completes this process and develops another vigorous cyclonic envelop over the Bahamas? http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/m ... /main.html


MIMIC almost says extreme S Florida or the straits/Keys?Look a coupe degrees forward and the old front to the N the keys are a funnel for maybe the next 24hrs?

extrapolating it's movement on mimic does look like a S Florida impact. I would also side with the Euro solution of the ridge as well. Mimic also shows it wrapping up nicely right now. I'm deeply concerned and worried about the monster it could become in the gulf?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1826 Postby abajan » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:03 pm

Out of curiosity, I googled to see if there were any live webcams on the Carnival Glory (due to it being in the midst of the thunderstorms currently occurring north of Puerto Rico) and this is the best I've found so far. Not ideal, because it refreshes every 30 seconds. If anyone can find a better link, do share.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1827 Postby Javlin » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:06 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:center is here. convection building but not towards the center. still up in the air if a new one forms with this deep convection or the current one does a cyclonic loop ..


That's were I was thinking looking at IF Shortwave but did not know it was MLC?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... -long.html
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1828 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:07 pm

Javlin wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:center is here. convection building but not towards the center. still up in the air if a new one forms with this deep convection or the current one does a cyclonic loop ..


That's were I was thinking looking at IF Shortwave but did not know it was MLC?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... -long.html


its much easier with RGB..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1829 Postby Hurricaneman » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:10 pm

I must say this, the convection is really intense and starting to build north towards the center

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1830 Postby Bailey1777 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:12 pm

Just curious...have there been any studies on how much more accurate modeling is after the gulf stream does it's thing and those values are added in?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1831 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:15 pm

Bailey1777 wrote:Just curious...have there been any studies on how much more accurate modeling is after the gulf stream does it's thing and those values are added in?

im sure there has been. I have not seen any though.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1832 Postby AJC3 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:25 pm

TheHook210 wrote:
SouthFLTropics wrote:Quick observation from Port St. Lucie, Florida...been in an NE to E flow all day. Storms have threatened and tonight they have arrived. My weather station is recording a rain rate of 1.28in/h right now. Winds have been steady out of the East at 5.0 MPH with gusts to 15.0. It's like we have a funnel overhead right now. Sporadic lightning and very loud thunder.


Same here near Cocoa Beach although most of our wind/rain was this morning. I was wondering if it was coming from ex Fiona.


Today's weather in east central Florida has nothing to do with Fiona, which has deformed into a trough well, well offshore.

What we had going on today was just moderately strong northeast flow picking up moisture and carrying the associated showers/storms into the area.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1833 Postby Alyono » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:26 pm

Bailey1777 wrote:Just curious...have there been any studies on how much more accurate modeling is after the gulf stream does it's thing and those values are added in?


This is an air force flight doing synoptic surveillance. The difference is this flies at 30,000 ft instead of 45,000 feet. No upper wind data will be available from the synoptic flight
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1834 Postby Blinhart » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:28 pm

Alyono wrote:
Bailey1777 wrote:Just curious...have there been any studies on how much more accurate modeling is after the gulf stream does it's thing and those values are added in?


This is an air force flight doing synoptic surveillance. The difference is this flies at 30,000 ft instead of 45,000 feet. No upper wind data will be available from the synoptic flight


What about the gulfstream that flew around Gaston and the recon from today will that information be put into the models for tonight or tomorrow morning? And did Recon (if it came from Biloxi) do drops in the GoM before getting into this system?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1835 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:30 pm

I don't believe they flew a Gulfstream out to Gaston...if I'm not mistaken I think it was a GlobalHawk drone flight.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1836 Postby blazess556 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:31 pm

3:09 UTC ASCAT data tonight reveals 99L still lacks a defined low-level circulation, but it is less elongated than this afternoon.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1837 Postby Blinhart » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:34 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:I don't believe they flew a Gulfstream out to Gaston...if I'm not mistaken I think it was a GlobalHawk drone flight.



Ok, I made a mistake GlobalHawk not Gulfstream.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1838 Postby bg1 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:38 pm

Bailey1777 wrote:Just curious...have there been any studies on how much more accurate modeling is after the gulf stream does it's thing and those values are added in?


I don't know, but I do remember the major models nailing Sandy's out-of-the-ordinary track four days out after the data went in. It also greatly eased the Joaquin headache.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1839 Postby OntarioEggplant » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:39 pm

Wow at 30 hrs the 00Z GFS actually closes the low. That's new.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#1840 Postby Evil Jeremy » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:40 pm

OntarioEggplant wrote:Wow at 30 hrs the 00Z GFS actually closes the low. That's new.


And opens it back up at 36hrs
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