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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#41 Postby abajan » Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:06 am

wxman57 wrote:It doesn't appear to be any hurry to gain any latitude at all. Those BAM models assumed immediate development, thus the recurve. If it doesn't develop, which appears likely, then it may track west into the Caribbean. I think that's most likely.

I know it's early days yet, but assuming it makes it all the way west into the Caribbean, what's your gut feeling regarding strength by the time it reaches this region? TW, TD, TS or cane?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#42 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:08 am

12z Best Track latitude is lower than first update.

Location: 9.2°N 23.7°W
Maximum Winds: 20 kt Gusts: N/A
Minimum Central Pressure: 1009 mb
Environmental Pressure: 1010 mb
Radius of Circulation: 120 NM
Radius of Maximum Wind: 80 NM

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#43 Postby NDG » Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:11 am

:uarrow: Yeah, I was about to post, they lowered the latitude probably based on the latest ASCAT pass.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#44 Postby NDG » Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:27 am

12z models

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#45 Postby tolakram » Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:35 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#46 Postby srainhoutx » Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:37 am

I suspect this disturbance will continue Westbound across the MDR. Conditions may improve once the tropical disturbance passes 50W and nears the Leeward Islands in about a week.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#47 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:49 am

tolakram wrote:Latest from CIMSS
http://i.imgur.com/Kg0wqt7.gif


They have to fix the location. :)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#48 Postby abajan » Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:04 am

cycloneye wrote:
tolakram wrote:Latest from CIMSS
http://i.imgur.com/Kg0wqt7.gif


They have to fix the location. :)

I'm guessing the surface circulation is actually currently directly south of the Cape Verdes.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#49 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:28 am

Don't look at convection to the left as low is around 25W. This is image at 13:45 UTC that does not update.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#50 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:03 am

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ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#51 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:09 am

12z GFS slightly more bullish through 120hrs.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#52 Postby abajan » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:12 am

The associated convection seems to be racing westward!

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#53 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:14 am

TheStormExpert wrote:12z GFS slightly more bullish through 120hrs.


And looks like it has a weaker ridge as its considerbly more north..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#54 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:16 am

OTS quickly on this run.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#55 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:22 am

Weaker through 156 hours. Looks like it's moving over cooler waters.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#56 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:28 am

12Z CMC turns the system westward around day 5 and has it moving West NE of the Lesser Antilles at 192 hours:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#57 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:30 am

gatorcane wrote:12Z CMC turns the system westward around day 5 and has it moving WNW NE of the Lesser Antilles at 192 hours:

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CMC is not handling steering correctly or is it keeping it weaker? Seems to be stronger on the CMC than last run. :?:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#58 Postby crownweather » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:33 am

tarheelprogrammer wrote:OTS quickly on this run.


GFS model is showing its poleward bias. Looks to me that it turns 98L northwest-northward way too quick. Instead, I think we will probably see a westward track for the time being.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#59 Postby Siker » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:36 am

Both the 12z CMC and the 12z UKMET now develop 98L.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#60 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:57 am

abajan wrote:The associated convection seems to be racing westward!

http://i.imgur.com/Co4K8qi.gif


Yes the convection and mid-level clouds are racing west, but inspection of the floater shows the surface feature is back around 26W and only slowly moving west as ridging is breaking down to the north.

Floater loop:
http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... display=12
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