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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4161 Postby drezee » Sat Oct 01, 2016 11:59 am

The eye you see is going to gyro around the larger CoC. It will appear to head SW then S then will pop N all of a sudden. It will then stair step NW...
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4162 Postby chris_fit » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:02 pm

drezee wrote:The eye you see is going to gyro around the larger CoC. It will appear to head SW then S then will pop N all of a sudden. It will then stair step NW...


This, most likely.

Maybe even a slight eastern illusion too as it swings back around.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4163 Postby ronjon » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:02 pm

Half a degree too far south doesn't have anything to do with the NW motion in the UKMET model north of Cuba.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4164 Postby Michele B » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:05 pm

ronjon wrote:Half a degree too far south doesn't have anything to do with the NW motion in the UKMET model north of Cuba.


Where do you see that model, can you post a link to it?

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4165 Postby Michele B » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:07 pm

I notice, too, in the graphic at the top of this page, the "cone" now includes ALL of FL, NOT just the southeastern corner. Def. shifting westward, albeit minutely.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4166 Postby KWT » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:09 pm

So the 12z GFS goes for a landfall and is basically a re-run of Irene from 2011, expect probably stronger. UKMO is west but as others have said it starts too far south.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4167 Postby ronjon » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:10 pm

Michele B wrote:
ronjon wrote:Half a degree too far south doesn't have anything to do with the NW motion in the UKMET model north of Cuba.


Where do you see that model, can you post a link to it?

TIA


Go upthread to #4156 and click link for storm 14.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4168 Postby Lifeless » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:10 pm

The MET's path according to the coordinates given

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4169 Postby Ken711 » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:10 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:UKMET has been far west the past 2 runs though with South Carolina landfalls

12z GFS is a scary solution for North Carolina up into the Northeast. Shades of Irene yet stronger.


Does the 12z GFS show a landfall then continue up the NE coast, or does it continue moving inland?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4170 Postby Raebie » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:11 pm

Can someone pretty please post the latest GFS graphic?? Please? Is this the model thread?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4171 Postby Raebie » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:14 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:UKMET has been far west the past 2 runs though with South Carolina landfalls

12z GFS is a scary solution for North Carolina up into the Northeast. Shades of Irene yet stronger.


It would be even scarier if I could see it.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4172 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:16 pm

Lifeless wrote:The MET's path according to the coordinates given

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Looks like last night's GFS...

EURO starts in 30...let's see what it has dreamed up today!
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4173 Postby KWT » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:16 pm

12z GFS landfalls in Cuba around 937mbs, hits the outer banks around a similar strength then scoots up NE for a final landfall of 967mbs.

So 3 big hits predicted by the 12z GFS tonight from Matthew...and way to close to comfort for most of Florida, especially the eastern parts.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4174 Postby psyclone » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:17 pm

Michele B wrote:I notice, too, in the graphic at the top of this page, the "cone" now includes ALL of FL, NOT just the southeastern corner. Def. shifting westward, albeit minutely.


the NHC cone only includes a sliver of southeastern fl at this point. Nevertheless, focusing on whether a particular area is in or out of the cone is not the best way to interpret risk....since the cone only represents a 2 out of 3 chance that the center will remain within that region. it says nothing about hazardous weather, which can reside well away from the center, and therefore well outside of the cone. I would encourage you to look at the wind probability graphics. they have consistently depicted a low risk for Florida.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4175 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:19 pm

Should we even be looking at the GFS? I know that wxman57 and a couple of others have mentioned that the EURO usually wins out in these situations? Thoughts on those comments?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4176 Postby KWT » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:20 pm

12z HWRF rolling out and also gets this down to 937mbs before Cuba. Rest of the run is rolling out and so we will see what it wants to do with it.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4177 Postby ronyan » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:20 pm

Raebie wrote:Can someone pretty please post the latest GFS graphic?? Please? Is this the model thread?


Here's the animation of the impacts to the Bahamas and the US East Coast, 78 hr - 240 hr.

http://gph.is/2dzEKS5
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4178 Postby terstorm1012 » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:21 pm

Anyone know when (if) continent-wide balloon releases will begin? Like they did for Sandy and Joaquin? that will definitely help with the models.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4179 Postby Alyono » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:21 pm

NAVGEM obliterates New England
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4180 Postby Raebie » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:22 pm

ronyan wrote:
Raebie wrote:Can someone pretty please post the latest GFS graphic?? Please? Is this the model thread?


Here's the animation of the impacts to the Bahamas and the US East Coast, 78 hr - 240 hr.

http://gph.is/2dzEKS5


Thank you so much. But I'm almost sorry I asked... :-)
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