ATL: MATTHEW - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4481 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:44 pm

gatorcane wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:
panamatropicwatch wrote:


Here it is:

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?5-daynl#contents


That's the 2pm not 5pm cone, I assume it will get updated very soon.


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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4482 Postby Evil Jeremy » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:44 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:
panamatropicwatch wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:Advisory is in:

The new NHC track forecast has been adjusted
significantly westward at days 3-5, and now lies near the middle of
the guidance envelope and close to the ECMWF/GFS blend.[/quote}

I haven't seen the new graphic yet.


Here it is:

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?5-daynl#contents

NVM it is the old graphic: Edit.....


Still not updated. And my quote was directly from the NHC discussion.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4483 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:45 pm

TWC just showed the cone. Includes east to central Florida.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4484 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:45 pm

Quick question why is the NHC going with a cat 2 when almost every model keeps it very very strong?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4485 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:46 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:
panamatropicwatch wrote:


Here it is:

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?5-daynl#contents

NVM it is the old graphic: Edit.....


Still not updated. And my quote was directly from the NHC discussion.


I put the tweet there with the map....
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4486 Postby gatorcane » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:46 pm

NHC discussion snippet:

While there
remains significant uncertainty in the track of Matthew in the long
range, the threat to Florida and the southeastern U.S. coast has
increased
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4487 Postby jlauderdal » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:46 pm

they came a degree further west than i thought they would..that is a big shift for the nhc to make in one package, cant recall such a big change even that far out in time...this sets the stage for watches and warnings to start going up soon
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4488 Postby AdamFirst » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:46 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:Quick question why is the NHC going with a cat 2 when almost every model keeps it very very strong?


Land interaction possibility between Haiti and Cuba + NHC traditionally conservative with longer range intensity forecast
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4489 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:46 pm

gatorcane wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:
panamatropicwatch wrote:


Here it is:

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?5-daynl#contents


That's the 2pm not 5pm cone, I assume it will get updated very soon.

I believe that is it cause it shifted west over through the middle of Grand Bahama Island.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4490 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:46 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:Quick question why is the NHC going with a cat 2 when almost every model keeps it very very strong?

Looks like they are very conservative when it comes to forecasting intensity.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4491 Postby EquusStorm » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:47 pm

Frame by frame, looking even more impressive. Eyewall might swipe Haiti if it keeps jogging east of due north, but flooding will rewrite the history books across the whole island. I'm sure the answer is very close and easily found, but any idea when the next recon is going in?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4492 Postby Evil Jeremy » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:47 pm

AxaltaRacing24 wrote:TWC just showed the cone. Includes east to central Florida.


About 5 minutes ago the TWC shows a half-completed graphic that I assume was supposed to be the updated cone, but was just forecast points against a blue background, no Florida, no cone, no anything lol.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4493 Postby gatorcane » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:48 pm

:eek:

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4494 Postby jlauderdal » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:49 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:Quick question why is the NHC going with a cat 2 when almost every model keeps it very very strong?
intensity forecasting is a real mystery..assume at least one category higher although it doesnt really matter as far as preps go if it comes to that
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4495 Postby caneseddy » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:50 pm

gatorcane wrote::eek:

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Well that will open a lot of eyes down here. Prepare the media hype to commence now.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4496 Postby Evil Jeremy » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:50 pm

jlauderdal wrote:they came a degree further west than i thought they would..that is a big shift for the nhc to make in one package, cant recall such a big change even that far out in time...this sets the stage for watches and warnings to start going up soon


Nothing will ever top the 180 degree cone flip of Debby.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4497 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:52 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:they came a degree further west than i thought they would..that is a big shift for the nhc to make in one package, cant recall such a big change even that far out in time...this sets the stage for watches and warnings to start going up soon


Nothing will ever top the 180 degree cone flip of Debby.

Wow, really?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4498 Postby Raebie » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:52 pm

gatorcane wrote::eek:

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Well crap, Charlotte is even in the cone now.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4499 Postby Alyono » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:53 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:Quick question why is the NHC going with a cat 2 when almost every model keeps it very very strong?


LGEM says so
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#4500 Postby Weatherboy1 » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:53 pm

jlauderdal wrote:they came a degree further west than i thought they would..that is a big shift for the nhc to make in one package, cant recall such a big change even that far out in time...this sets the stage for watches and warnings to start going up soon


Yes, that is a big shift but I think it makes all the sense in the world given that it wasn't just one or two unreliable models indicating a closer pass by the coast. The overnight modelling will be key in terms of whether we get a TS or Hurricane watch in my opinion. Going to be an interesting several hours of model watching for sure!
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