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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4821 Postby toad strangler » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:11 pm

00z GFS further N (faster) @114 than 12z

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4822 Postby Alyono » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:11 pm

To see an East Coast strike, the chances will increase if the trough is STRONGER, not WEAKER. A stronger trough will have a sharper, or even a negative tilt, which will bring the storm into the coast. A weak trough will send it northeast
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4823 Postby Fountainguy97 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:11 pm

Is the trough slower this run??

MUCH more ridging to the east of Matthew at hr 120


It will impact NC THIS RUN
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4824 Postby WHYB630 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:12 pm

One thing needs to be sure is the trough tilt negative or not. If so unfortunately there may suck Matthew back to NE :eek: :double:
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4825 Postby JaxGator » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:13 pm

Alyono wrote:To see an East Coast strike, the chances will increase if the trough is STRONGER, not WEAKER. A stronger trough will have a sharper, or even a negative tilt, which will bring the storm into the coast. A weak trough will send it northeast


Even without a stronger ridge?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4826 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:13 pm

Fountainguy97 wrote:Is the trough slower this run??

MUCH more ridging to the east of Matthew at hr 120


It will impact NC THIS RUN


Slower trough and stronger ridge.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4827 Postby chaser1 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:14 pm

I was going to disagree with the notion that this run appeared significantly faster, but at 108 hr. it is about 40 miles further north, and that gap seems to increase at 114 hrs.

Yikes, trending closer to the coast for sure -
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... ypos=254.4
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4828 Postby Alyono » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:14 pm

trough looks more highly amplified. I suspect this run is going into New England instead of Canada
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4829 Postby WHYB630 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:15 pm

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4830 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:15 pm

JUST missing OBX to the east by about 20-30 miles. A significant trend west from 18z, however.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4831 Postby chaser1 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:15 pm

Awful close at 132 hr. but hopefully this verifies. Storm begins to make its turn and this might be the closest point to the Outer Banks on this run

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... ypos=254.4
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4832 Postby Ken711 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:16 pm

Seems like faster movement on this track?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4833 Postby Fountainguy97 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:16 pm

Alyono wrote:trough looks more highly amplified. I suspect this run is going into New England instead of Canada


I agree trough is much sharper. Closed bowling ball vort as well
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4834 Postby SouthFLTropics » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:16 pm

Is the new UKMET out?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4835 Postby WHYB630 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:17 pm

JaxGator wrote:
Alyono wrote:To see an East Coast strike, the chances will increase if the trough is STRONGER, not WEAKER. A stronger trough will have a sharper, or even a negative tilt, which will bring the storm into the coast. A weak trough will send it northeast


Even without a stronger ridge?


I think ridge and trough both work together. If the ridge is weak -> trough won't get negative tilted (???)
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4836 Postby meriland23 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:17 pm

What is the suspected strength at that point?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4837 Postby South Texas Storms » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:17 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:Is the new UKMET out?


It will be out in the next 5-10 minutes.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4838 Postby toad strangler » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:17 pm

Possible landfall scrape in the OB's @138 of the 00z GFS
That is a LARGE shift to the NW over 12z

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4839 Postby chaser1 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:18 pm

Maybe even a hair closer at 138 hr's; then at 142 its definitely moving on

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... ypos=174.4
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#4840 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:19 pm

meriland23 wrote:What is the suspected strength at that point?


Very strong cat 4 and a bit large circulation than now.
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