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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5201 Postby LCfromFL » Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:53 am



That breaks my heart. Prayers for those in the path of this beast today.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5202 Postby CourierPR » Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:54 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
ObsessedMiami wrote:
hurricaneCW wrote:These jogs further east may have spared Florida from a direct hit but unfortunately it was at the expense of Haiti, this is as bad as you can imagine for them.


Florida hasn't been spared anything yet.


Agreed. Absolutely pointless to be looking at short-term jogs east-to-west as hurricanes of Matthew's intensity don't follow a straight line and often bounce around.


At times like this, words mean a lot and we need to be very careful how we use them.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5203 Postby hurricaneCW » Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:56 am

It's more than a wobble, Matthew may get around 74W before it starts heading N/NW again which is pretty significant when you're talking about 50-75 miles away from landfall by Florida.

But at the same time if the ridging ends up being stronger than it could counteract that. Personal thoughts are that it ends up 60-70 miles east of Florida and hits NC maybe SC too.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5204 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:57 am

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5205 Postby txwatcher91 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:57 am

Right now the biggest concern should be for those in Haiti. They're getting slammed with a storm that just completed an EWRC so a much larger swath of powerful winds and intensifying as it makes landfall which is even worse. I don't know how populated the area around the landfall location is but the wind damage will be awful.

Also maybe it's just me but on satellite Matthew has developed a large cdo, is perfectly symmetrical with a large eye and no banding. Classic buzz saw look.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5206 Postby CourierPR » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:00 am

hurricaneCW wrote:It's more than a wobble, Matthew may get around 74W before it starts heading N/NW again which is pretty significant when you're talking about 50-75 miles away from landfall by Florida.

But at the same time if the ridging ends up being stronger than it could counteract that. Personal thoughts are that it ends up 60-70 miles east of Florida and hits NC maybe SC too.


It was a wobble. If you look at the loop now, you can see it is back on course.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5207 Postby bigGbear » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:03 am

Matt is heading straight for Pic Macaya, one of the highest mountains in Haiti (nearly 7000 ft). Perhaps
some effects on the storm structure.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5208 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:03 am

At 10:30 UTC, Matthew impacted Haiti by English Bay (between British, Port-à-Piment and Roche-à-Bateaux)


 https://twitter.com/KeraunosObs/status/783256546881011712


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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5209 Postby gulf701 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:03 am

I also feel for anyone impacted by Matthew. When you look at what so many of them live in, the out come looks very grave.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5210 Postby USTropics » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:06 am

NE eyewall now over Haiti:

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5211 Postby AdamFirst » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:07 am

If Matthew were to head poleward the core would largely miss the Cuban peninsula - just as predicted by the EURO model
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5212 Postby hurricaneCW » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:08 am

With Haiti the wind factor is not the main issue; it has always been the flooding. Yes the winds will be devastating for a small portion of the country but if there's a killer it's going to be that 15-30+ inches of rain.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5213 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:10 am

Recon descending to 10K ft.
Just crossing DR / Haiti Border offshore.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5214 Postby SouthDadeFish » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:11 am

The latest GPM pass is honestly quite horrifying. This is about as bad as it gets.

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I guess if there is any silver lining, the center isn't tracking directly over the capital of Port-au-Prince. Regardless, life threatening flash floods will be possible throughout the nation and into the Dominican Republic.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5215 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:12 am

GCANE wrote:Recon descending to 10K ft.
Just crossing DR / Haiti Border offshore.


Picking up 50 knot flight-level winds.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5216 Postby SouthDadeFish » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:12 am

GCANE wrote:Recon descending to 10K ft.
Just crossing DR / Haiti Border offshore.


I don't think they will be able to do a center fix before landfall. Looks like landfall is occurring right now.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5217 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:14 am

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5218 Postby USTropics » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:15 am

hurricaneCW wrote:With Haiti the wind factor is not the main issue; it has always been the flooding. Yes the winds will be devastating for a small portion of the country but if there's a killer it's going to be that 15-30+ inches of rain.


This article was from 2 hours ago and it appears certain residents along the coast may have ignored evacuation requests. You're correct that mass casualties will result from potential landslides and torrential rainfall but there will also be deaths attributed to the impact of high winds I would imagine.

http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/haiti-hurricane-matthew-flooding-jamaica-cuba/60483851
Dozens of homes were already flooded in the town of Les Anglais, Haiti, due to Matthew's storm surge, according to Reuters. In the nearby town of Tiburon, residents who refused to evacuate earlier this week fled once the sea began to rise.

"Hurricane Matthew could have devastating impacts in Haiti, as the country has not experienced a storm of this magnitude since 1954. The people of Haiti were already suffering from a drought as a result of El Niño and now they will likely endure the shock of torrential flooding as a result of this storm," said Jean-Michel Vigreux, CARE country director in Haiti. "With the amount of rain expected, thousands are vulnerable to extreme flooding and mudslides due to deforestation in Haiti. The earlier people can get to shelters, the better, which is what we are emphasizing now,"
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5219 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:17 am

was just at the gas staion getting 50 gallons for the generator...3 other people over there doing the same including lauderdalel by the sea employees..perfect time to go pulled right up,. no lines..one guy did say to me "its not coming here my friend", old timer maybe he knows something..anyway it will go into my car, i hope the gas never touches the generator//next stop, the grocery store in 30 mins
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

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