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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#5321 Postby gatorcane » Mon Oct 03, 2016 2:41 pm

12 UKMET at 84 hours just off SE Florida:
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#5322 Postby emeraldislenc » Mon Oct 03, 2016 2:45 pm

So it looks like a good chance for a NC landfall? Are the odds increasing?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#5323 Postby SouthernBreeze » Mon Oct 03, 2016 2:47 pm

If follows that UKMET, looks like would be minimal disruption from land of Cuba/Haiti, although both their flooding will be devastating :(
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#5324 Postby NDG » Mon Oct 03, 2016 2:47 pm

Update on Models' error so far with with Matthew. GFS is not doing too bad through 84 hr but the Euro has clear lead closer to day 5.
HWRF continues to do horrible, making the TVCN look bad.

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#5325 Postby jlauderdal » Mon Oct 03, 2016 2:50 pm

gatorcane wrote:12 UKMET at 84 hours just off SE Florida:
matt does a nice job of avoiding a direct hit with the mountains of eastern cuba on this run and then makes an efficient run at florida...compare that track to the current nhc track..one of them is way wrong..nhc is going ot have to start coming clean with their track starting at 5..im not suggesting they bring it onshore anywhere but they will need to start bending towards the coast someplace
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#5326 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Mon Oct 03, 2016 2:52 pm

I am hesitant now to call UKMet an outlier seems all models are picking up on west shift now, tho many still keep it offshore :double:
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#5327 Postby emeraldislenc » Mon Oct 03, 2016 2:53 pm

The 5 pm advisory will be interesting
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#5328 Postby ronjon » Mon Oct 03, 2016 2:53 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
gatorcane wrote:12 UKMET at 84 hours just off SE Florida:
matt does a nice job of avoiding a direct hit with the mountains of eastern cuba on this run and then makes an efficient run at florida...compare that track to the current nhc track..one of them is way wrong..nhc is going ot have to start coming clean with their track starting at 5..im not suggesting they bring it onshore anywhere but they will need to start bending towards the coast someplace


Litle doubt jlaud since current track on the east side of guidance - my bet is they'll average tracks of 12z GFS and Euro days 3 - 5.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#5329 Postby alienstorm » Mon Oct 03, 2016 2:55 pm

ronjon wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:
gatorcane wrote:12 UKMET at 84 hours just off SE Florida:
matt does a nice job of avoiding a direct hit with the mountains of eastern cuba on this run and then makes an efficient run at florida...compare that track to the current nhc track..one of them is way wrong..nhc is going ot have to start coming clean with their track starting at 5..im not suggesting they bring it onshore anywhere but they will need to start bending towards the coast someplace


Litle doubt jlaud since current track on the east side of guidance - my bet is they'll average tracks of 12z GFS and Euro days 3 - 5.


Not with the Governor declaring a State of Emergency, I believe that there was a discussion with NHC before declaring it.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#5330 Postby toad strangler » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:10 pm

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#5331 Postby HURRICANELONNY » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:19 pm

I think the NHC said the ukmet was the outlier but now the ecmwf is bending west all bets are off :eek:
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#5332 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:22 pm

12z Euro Ensembles shifting a tad east.

 https://twitter.com/ryanmaue/status/783038088352243712


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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#5333 Postby marciacubed » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:23 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:12z Euro Ensembles shifting a tad east.

 https://twitter.com/ryanmaue/status/783038088352243712



East? Everyone else has said west. I am confused
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#5334 Postby HURRICANELONNY » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:23 pm

Doesnt matter. The trend went somewhat west which at the least would be alot of beach erosion for florida
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#5335 Postby gatorcane » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:25 pm

There are a lot of ECMWF ensembles into SE Florida or along the east coast of Florida....
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#5336 Postby ronjon » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:25 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:12z Euro Ensembles shifting a tad east.

 https://twitter.com/ryanmaue/status/783038088352243712




They look to me about the same as the 00z run.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#5337 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:31 pm

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#5338 Postby Evil Jeremy » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:32 pm

ronjon wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:12z Euro Ensembles shifting a tad east.

 https://twitter.com/ryanmaue/status/783038088352243712




They look to me about the same as the 00z run.


For reference, the 00z ensembles:
 https://twitter.com/RaleighWx/status/782873960807407616


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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#5339 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:42 pm

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#5340 Postby SeminoleWind » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:49 pm

The UKMET has been persistently to the west, could it be on to something?

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