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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5921 Postby SolarBear73 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:38 pm

00z GFS is running now. Could be interesting
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5922 Postby NWFL56 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:40 pm

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Noles2016 wrote:Long time mostly-lurker... used to have an account, but forgot my email and login info...

I live south of Tallahassee in Wakulla County... should be in for some interesting weather these next few days...

Hey neighbor. Up the road from you in NE Tallahassee. Mother-in-law is in Wakulla near Spring Creek. Stay safe!

Paying attention too.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Recon Discussion

#5923 Postby galaxy401 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:40 pm

When is the next recon mission heading to this system?
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5924 Postby toad strangler » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:41 pm

Outflow on TD9 ..... all around definitely the best it has looked since coming off Africa. Certainly presents like a TS now.

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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5925 Postby floridasun78 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:43 pm

it likely be ts by 5am
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5926 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:44 pm

floridasun78 wrote:it likely be ts by 5am


most likely if organizational trends continue

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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5927 Postby RazorTracks » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:47 pm

SeGaBob wrote:If the models continue their trend NHC will have to shift back west at some point. I still don't get why NHC would shift south and east...


That's what I'm having trouble understanding too. Why would the angle at which it hooks NE continue to increase as it moves SW/SSW, unless the pull from that incoming trough is just THAT strong? I'm not seeing any indications that it'll be stronger than average.

Besides, if it was indeed that strong wouldn't the track have the same "end" point in NE Florida regardless of current location? We may be splitting hairs here but it could ultimately make a big difference when you factor Tampa into the equation.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5928 Postby sponger » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:48 pm

RazorTracks wrote:Just about to cover the entire GOM, at least with minimally moist air. I'm thinking that it may have grown too large with CoCs that are currently too weak to spin it up much, which would explain the lack of raising winds and TS upgrade.

First post by the way, even though I've been reading the boards for a long time now as a guest. I'm from Arkansas and have learned as much as I can absorb when it comes to tornadoes, so I thought I'd take an interest in tropical weather. I've stayed glued to this forum for about 8 days straight now :double:


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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5929 Postby JKingTampa » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:48 pm

Still kinda curious why Tampa Bay doesnt have at least a tropical storm watch while there's a hurricane watch the next County up.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5930 Postby pcolaman » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:51 pm

JKingTampa wrote:Still kinda curious why Tampa Bay doesnt have at least a tropical storm watch while there's a hurricane watch the next County up.



Model trends
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5931 Postby psyclone » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:51 pm

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JaxGator wrote:For now, the NHC has increased the intensity forecast at landfall to 70 mph (right below hurricane strength). It looks great now. Definitely organizing.
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Yeah it may reach Cat 1 status upon landfall. Going to be very interesting next 48 -60 hours here in Northeast Fl.and the North Florida region


It's really strange. All of the counties along the I75 corridor within the cone have had tropical storm watches put in place as well as a hurricane statement. Can't say that I remember ever seeing both at the same time before. I live in Marion county, btw.

Are you referring to the hurricane local statement issued by the NWS? If so those are issued to cover local effects in an area impacted by tropical weather. Even an approaching TS will trigger a hurricane local statement from the NWS. My current local forecast contains a hurricane local statement and I'm not even in the watch area. Ruskin put one out for their counties
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5932 Postby JKingTampa » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:53 pm

psyclone wrote:
FLLurker32 wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:]
Yeah it may reach Cat 1 status upon landfall. Going to be very interesting next 48 -60 hours here in Northeast Fl.and the North Florida region


It's really strange. All of the counties along the I75 corridor within the cone have had tropical storm watches put in place as well as a hurricane statement. Can't say that I remember ever seeing both at the same time before. I live in Marion county, btw.

Are you referring to the hurricane local statement issued by the NWS? If so those are issued to cover local effects in an area impacted by tropical weather. Even an approaching TS will trigger a hurricane local statement from the NWS. My current local forecast contains a hurricane local statement and I'm not even in the watch area. Ruskin put one out for their counties


Yeah we have one in Pinellas also.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5933 Postby sponger » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:55 pm

This larger than I expected structure could have real issues with flooding into Cedar key and Tampa. Even with a shift I am expecting plenty of action on the dirty side of the storm. Generator is still ready to go since Jeanne, 12 years ago.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5934 Postby NWFL56 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:55 pm

SeGaBob wrote:If the models continue their trend NHC will have to shift back west at some point. I still don't get why NHC would shift south and east...

Some of the forecast position / max wind coordinates are a little confusing. They do seem to indicate a shift East before landfall.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5935 Postby benh316 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:57 pm

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... imated.gif

It required looking at infrared with no enhancements due to time of night... But the center of circulation is very visible if you don't blink
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5936 Postby psyclone » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:00 pm

JKingTampa wrote:Still kinda curious why Tampa Bay doesnt have at least a tropical storm watch while there's a hurricane watch the next County up.


I would imagine it's still a function of their latest wind probabilities. they are still 30% or less south of the watch area, although it looks like 40% probs extend as far as Clearwater beach or so. Nevertheless watch for future track updates. If it goes a little more west..like toward Apalachicola (very possible) the wind probs for the tampa bay area will decrease. Kinda of a close shave anyway you slice it. I envision us getting waves of squalls with gusty winds with not so terrible weather in between. should be rather chaotic interesting weather.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5937 Postby benh316 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:04 pm

NWFL56 wrote:
SeGaBob wrote:If the models continue their trend NHC will have to shift back west at some point. I still don't get why NHC would shift south and east...

Some of the forecast position / max wind coordinates are a little confusing. They do seem to indicate a shift East before landfall.


I'm not sold that this storm is going as far north and west as the models predict. I feel as if it will boomerang and come back further east... Much further
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Re: ATL: NINE - Recon Discussion

#5938 Postby SeGaBob » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:04 pm

galaxy401 wrote:When is the next recon mission heading to this system?

I'd like to know this also.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Recon Discussion

#5939 Postby tropicwatch » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:05 pm

Should be taking off anytime now.
TROPICAL DEPRESSION NINE (GULF OF MEXICO)
FLIGHT TWO - NOAA 43
A. 31/0530Z,1130Z
B. NOAA3 1009A CYCLONE
C. 31/0400Z
D. 25.5N 86.9W
E. 31/0500Z TO 31/1130Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT
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Re: ATL: NINE - Recon Discussion

#5940 Postby mobilebay » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:05 pm

SeGaBob wrote:
galaxy401 wrote:When is the next recon mission heading to this system?

I'd like to know this also.

I think one is scheduled for 06z . They should be leaving shortly
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