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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6021 Postby johngaltfla » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:18 pm

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floridasun78 wrote:ok looking at sat pic this not moving north look more like wnw or w that could cause hurr watch to issue for dade or even upper keys not sure it wobble

Yeah that little tip of Cuba has really taken the bite out of Matt. It does look like it has slowed to a crawl and is getting gutted by that little peice of land, surprisingly. I believe this will have significant impacts on future intensity.


Hopefully that 4000 ft. mountain takes a bite and buys Florida some time. I wish the trough could push it out to sea but no evidence thus far of the high pressure weakening.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6022 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:20 pm

otowntiger wrote:
floridasun78 wrote:ok looking at sat pic this not moving north look more like wnw or w that could cause hurr watch to issue for dade or even upper keys not sure it wobble

Yeah that little tip of Cuba has really taken the bite out of Matt. It does look like it has slowed to a crawl and is getting gutted by that little peice of land, surprisingly. I believe this will have significant impacts on future intensity.


possible track change too...longer it sits the farther south it can come in with that expanding ridge to the north..these intensity and track ideas are just that...land interaction can be a big deal..we wont know until it starts moving and gets away
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6023 Postby La Sirena » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:24 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
otowntiger wrote:
floridasun78 wrote:ok looking at sat pic this not moving north look more like wnw or w that could cause hurr watch to issue for dade or even upper keys not sure it wobble

Yeah that little tip of Cuba has really taken the bite out of Matt. It does look like it has slowed to a crawl and is getting gutted by that little peice of land, surprisingly. I believe this will have significant impacts on future intensity.


possible track change too...longer it sits the farther south it can come in with that expanding ridge to the north..these intensity and track ideas are just that...land interaction can be a big deal..we wont know until it starts moving and gets away

Farther south would be crazy. Can't imagine.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6024 Postby floridasun78 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:29 pm

i hope my eye playing with me moving WNW i going see were eye exit cuba
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6025 Postby Sanibel » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:29 pm

TWC Mike Theiss says men are bracing both doors shut in the building he is in in Baracoa, Cuba. The winds are a constant howl and "it is scary".
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6026 Postby SouthDadeFish » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:31 pm

Very impressive on microwave:

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6027 Postby Laser30033003 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:34 pm

Hay who has that radar link out Cuba
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6028 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:34 pm

SouthDadeFish wrote:Very impressive on microwave:

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SouthDadeDish,

Do you see the the satellite presentation as a superficial type of change? Do you believe the core of the storm is in better shape than what recent IR imagery seems to show?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6029 Postby Michele B » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:35 pm

Sanibel wrote:TWC Mike Theiss says men are bracing both doors shut in the building he is in in Baracoa, Cuba. The winds are a constant howl and "it is scary".


Yes, I heard that. and it brought to mind what I remember when I was a kid....all outside doors of FL homes HAD to open OUT, because of hurricanes....so the wind could NOT blow them in, thus allowing the storm to get into the house. Now, it appears there's no such limitation of which way your door swings into your house. Am I wrong? Is this no longer a part of the building code?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6030 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:36 pm

Image

Here is a very cool image that I found. I like how it breaks down the wind speed projections along the track.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6031 Postby psyclone » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:38 pm

otowntiger wrote:
floridasun78 wrote:ok looking at sat pic this not moving north look more like wnw or w that could cause hurr watch to issue for dade or even upper keys not sure it wobble

Yeah that little tip of Cuba has really taken the bite out of Matt. It does look like it has slowed to a crawl and is getting gutted by that little peice of land, surprisingly. I believe this will have significant impacts on future intensity.

This is a large, deep storm. There's no doubt some disruption will take place but the reality is that the windfield has been under the disrupting influence of mountainous terrain for a full day and the storm is hanging in there quite well. If anything, the system deserves a tenacity award. and it will be pulling away from these influences tomorrow. I would continue to bet on a substantial and dangerous storm post Greater Antilles.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6032 Postby BobHarlem » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:40 pm

Laser30033003 wrote:Hay who has that radar link out Cuba


Normal loop: http://radar.weather.gov/radar_lite.php ... R&loop=yes

Longer term loop: http://flhurricane.com/imageanimator.php?231

beware the radar is being blocked by some of the mountains, so it's not as good a picture on the NE side.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6033 Postby Alyono » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:42 pm

still looks to be moving north to me. Not far from the water again
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6034 Postby SFLcane » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:42 pm

Time table for TS warning in Dade county? Thx
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6035 Postby AdamFirst » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:45 pm

Alyono wrote:still looks to be moving north to me. Not far from the water again


Yep. Water vapor imagery clearly shows north movement
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6036 Postby dukeblue219 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:46 pm

SFLcane wrote:Time table for TS warning in Dade county? Thx


Tomorrow morning I think? It won't happen until TS conditions are within 36 hours. Right now, if Dade does see them, it would be sometimes Thursday afternoon or evening that those conditions begin.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6037 Postby Sanibel » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:47 pm

Michele B wrote:
Yes, I heard that. and it brought to mind what I remember when I was a kid....all outside doors of FL homes HAD to open OUT, because of hurricanes....so the wind could NOT blow them in, thus allowing the storm to get into the house. Now, it appears there's no such limitation of which way your door swings into your house. Am I wrong? Is this no longer a part of the building code?



Our front door opens in but it is thick and has a steel hurricane shutter outside it.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6038 Postby SouthDadeFish » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:47 pm

FLpanhandle91 wrote:
SouthDadeFish wrote:Very impressive on microwave:


SouthDadeDish,

Do you see the the satellite presentation as a superficial type of change? Do you believe the core of the storm is in better shape than what recent IR imagery seems to show?


Hey, I like that name better :lol: Anyway, microwave is definitely more effective at revealing the convective structure of a TC than conventional infrared imagery since IR imagery can only see the cloud tops. It appears that the structure of the storm is more organized than what IR shows. However, it remains to be seen what the TC looks like after emerging from Cuba.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6039 Postby Evil Jeremy » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:48 pm

dukeblue219 wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Time table for TS warning in Dade county? Thx


Tomorrow morning I think? It won't happen until TS conditions are within 36 hours. Right now, if Dade does see them, it would be sometimes Thursday afternoon or evening that those conditions begin.


I have to imagine tonight. The watches were issued 12 hours ago. 36 hours from now is Thursday 11am, fringe effects would be starting around then.

It's not inconceivable that the NHC waits until tomorrow, but it generally seems the warnings come 12 hours after the watches.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6040 Postby GeneratorPower » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:51 pm

Madpoodle, I am an electrical engineer and owner of a generator dealership in Southwest Florida. Been doing this 15 years. Your article has good points but in general is full of half truths and misinformation. Mods, maybe shift this to another thread.
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