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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6041 Postby gatorcane » Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:54 am

I noticed the NAVGEM doesn't even seem to initialize Nicole as a TS but instead a wave. Seems like Mathew ends up absorbing the wave and/or it dissipates.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6042 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:55 am

NAVGEM is always left biased it seems.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6043 Postby WPBWeather » Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:58 am

TheStormExpert wrote:NAVGEM is always left biased it seems.


But its been right when it has been.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6044 Postby Weatherboy1 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:58 am

gatorcane wrote:12Z CMC nearly indentical as far as how close to SE Florida it gets from the 00Z run - note it turns almost due west briefly in the NW Bahamas before turning back NNW at the "last minute."

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actually, comparing that run vs. the "yellow line" for the CMC on the SFWMD website, it looks like a BIG shift west for the Canadian. Something like 70-100 miles, no? The yellow line track from overnight is east of the northernmost Bahamas. This one is at the west end of Grand Bahamas...

EDIT: Never mind. Looking at wrong model track. Carry on!
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6045 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:58 am

Since Matthew was little phased by Haiti and looks like will just graze Cuba, I think this is worth mentioning.
Here are the models that have performed the best for Matthew with track error less than 100 miles, 3 days out.
Some Euro enembles have also done well but I couldn't pull them up.
Hopefully I can get those later.

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6046 Postby WeatherEmperor » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:06 pm

GCANE wrote:Since Matthew was little phased by Haiti and looks like will just graze Cuba, I think this is worth mentioning.
Here are the models that have performed the best for Matthew with track error less than 100 miles, 3 days out.
Some Euro enembles have also done well but I couldn't pull them up.
Hopefully I can get those later.

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6047 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:08 pm

NAVGEM has been the same with landfall near or south of WPB for 3 days now. Strange.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6048 Postby gatorcane » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:08 pm

12Z GFS ensembles are less clustered east of Florida than 06Z (though still quite clustered) and now several landfalling in SE Florida/Palm Beach County (seems the ones that move Matthew slightly slower on the approach to Florida)

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6049 Postby cjrciadt » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:10 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:
GCANE wrote:Since Matthew was little phased by Haiti and looks like will just graze Cuba, I think this is worth mentioning.
Here are the models that have performed the best for Matthew with track error less than 100 miles, 3 days out.
Some Euro enembles have also done well but I couldn't pull them up.
Hopefully I can get those later.

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JGSM
Japanese Global Spectral Model
JGSM - Japanese Global Spectral Model
JGSI - Japanese Global Spectral Model (Interpolated 06 hours)
JGS2 - Japanese Global Spectral Model (Interpolated 12 hours)
The JGS2 also goes right over me in Kissimmee lol
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6050 Postby SFLcane » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:20 pm

Wait....lol sooo 12z models appear on a westward trend
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6051 Postby sma10 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:21 pm

NAVGEM has been consistent true, but for today's 12Z to be correct, Matthew would have to start moving more to the West immediately.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6052 Postby stormreader » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:22 pm

SFLcane wrote:Wait....lol sooo 12z models appear on a westward trend

Not surprised. Many models were late coming to the western solution. If anything, expect further shifts west.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6053 Postby Evil Jeremy » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:23 pm

GFDL joins the 12z west train, taking Matthew inland Florida what appears to be around the Broward/Palm Beach border, before exiting back into the Atlantic just south of Jacksonville.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6054 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:23 pm

SFLcane wrote:Wait....lol sooo 12z models appear on a westward trend


That's what I was thinking ..Spaghetti plots got to be tossing some color on FL based on the NavGEM and UK MET and I still think the GGFS was a fraction west of the 06Z. If Euro trends west we will see another west move(closer to peninsula) for the 5pm. That's the big IF..
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6055 Postby tolakram » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:24 pm

12z GEFS run

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6056 Postby lando » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:24 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:GFDL joins the 12z west train, taking Matthew inland Florida what appears to be around the Broward/Palm Beach border, before exiting back into the Atlantic just south of Jacksonville.


pic?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6057 Postby JPmia » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:25 pm

sma10 wrote:NAVGEM has been consistent true, but for today's 12Z to be correct, Matthew would have to start moving more to the West immediately.


I don't see that.. It's on track at the moment.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6058 Postby WeatherEmperor » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:25 pm

12z Gfdl landfall in south florida. Now we have Gfdl, Ukmet and Nogaps with south florida landfalls.

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6059 Postby tolakram » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:26 pm

This plot is on the Weatherbell free server so posting it here.

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source: http://weather.graphics/AL14_current.png
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6060 Postby ronjon » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:26 pm

lando wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:GFDL joins the 12z west train, taking Matthew inland Florida what appears to be around the Broward/Palm Beach border, before exiting back into the Atlantic just south of Jacksonville.


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Run isn't posted on Trop Tidbits yet. But track is on SWFWMD site:

http://www.sfwmd.gov/portal/page/portal/xweb%20weather/hurricane%20model%20plots
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