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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6341 Postby ronjon » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:13 am

Not sure why the NHC is so far offshore. Both the GFS AND ECM pretty much show a landfall near the cape and essentially riding the eye right along the coast to St Aug.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6342 Postby LCfromFL » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:14 am

jdjaguar wrote:What? Really?
Packing up now


jdjaguar - Richard Nunn on Channel 4 showed possible 100+ mph winds at the beach. :eek: Be safe!
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6343 Postby SouthDadeFish » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:15 am

Folks under the hurricane warning in Florida need to complete their preparations TODAY, if they haven't done so already. Conditions will begin to deteriorate on Thursday and you do not want to be caught out unprepared as the winds and rain pick up. Remember, it is not necessary for the center of the storm to come ashore at your location for your area to experience hurricane conditions! Since the storm will be approaching at an angle almost parallel to the coastline, a large swath of FL could experience hurricane-force winds. Hurricane Matthew is, and will likely continue to be, a powerful hurricane at the time of its closest approach. Please take this seriously and listen to your local emergency management.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6344 Postby LCfromFL » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:16 am

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:I have no words....06z GFS loops back for 2nd landfall in Central Florida area. 150 hr timeframe.


I saw that and could only watch in disbelief. Crazy. :double:
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6345 Postby eastcoastFL » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:18 am

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jlauderdal wrote:i saw a station sold out of gas..atlantic and federal pompano beach


I finally found a 7-11 and I'm in line now for gas in palm city. They are down to regular gas only but I'll take it.
glad you found gasoline....im sure some stations are saying they only have premium and when that runs out they will open up the regular pumps..this is flori duh


Lol yes it is. They did raise the price by .10cents since yesterday. Go figure!
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6346 Postby eastcoastFL » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:20 am

SouthDadeFish wrote:Folks under the hurricane warning in Florida need to complete their preparations TODAY, if they haven't done so already. Conditions will begin to deteriorate on Thursday and you do not want to be caught out unprepared as the winds and rain pick up. Remember, it is not necessary for the center of the storm to come ashore at your location for your area to experience hurricane conditions! Since the storm will be approaching at an angle almost parallel to the coastline, a large swath of FL could experience hurricane-force winds. Hurricane Matthew is, and will likely continue to be, a powerful hurricane at the time of its closest approach. Please take this seriously and listen to your local emergency management.


Im on the treasure coast. I plan on working for a few hours this morning then making the rounds to put up shutters for my family.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6347 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:22 am

Signs of reorganization? Matthew's already firing off -70C cloudtops in its northern eyewall as the storm moves away from Cuba.

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6348 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:24 am

SouthDadeFish wrote:Folks under the hurricane warning in Florida need to complete their preparations TODAY, if they haven't done so already. Conditions will begin to deteriorate on Thursday and you do not want to be caught out unprepared as the winds and rain pick up. Remember, it is not necessary for the center of the storm to come ashore at your location for your area to experience hurricane conditions! Since the storm will be approaching at an angle almost parallel to the coastline, a large swath of FL could experience hurricane-force winds. Hurricane Matthew is, and will likely continue to be, a powerful hurricane at the time of its closest approach. Please take this seriously and listen to your local emergency management.
dont think you are going to wait and wait and then put panels up in the wind...its extremely dangerous to try it and the precip will be moving in and power equipment doesnt mix well with rain...be smart about it..start this morning have lunch, take a nap and proceed...many injuries during install and taking them down

Fish is correct...dont focus on the line, we are looking at a major so the circulation will be intense and track wise..it only takes a small deviation to come onshore much farther south then the modeling shows
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6349 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:25 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Signs of reorganization? Matthew's already firing off -70C cloudtops in its northern eyewall as the storm moves away from Cuba.

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looks like its jogging NW a little to soon i would think (6 hours)
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6350 Postby FLLurker32 » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:25 am

ronjon wrote:Not sure why the NHC is so far offshore. Both the GFS AND ECM pretty much show a landfall near the cape and essentially riding the eye right along the coast to St Aug.


I'm wondering the same. I'm inland. About 50-60 miles directly west of Daytona beach. With their placement offshore our TS watch only says 25-35mph winds. If what the GFS and Euro paths show are correct and it comes right to the coast it would be more like 60mph winds. That's the difference between people here taking it seriously vs. thinking it's no big deal. Talk about rolling the dice...
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6351 Postby RL3AO » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:27 am

Strong convection firing on the western half of the eyewall. Shouldn't have any problems re-closing off the SW side. Could be bad bad news for the Bahamas and Florida.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6352 Postby Evil Jeremy » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:28 am

Good morning everyone.

For the first time since 2005, I'm preparing for a worst-case-scenario. I see the Hurricane Watch is up for Jacksonville, should become a warning around 5pm today. I hope everyone in the path down South is finishing their preparations. This is going to be a whopper.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6353 Postby SouthDadeFish » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:30 am

Air force recon found peak SFMR readings of 109 kt and peak flight-level winds of 112 kt, with an extrapolated pressure of approximately 961 mb. One Matthew closes off that eyewall, I think further intensification is quite likely.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6354 Postby AdamFirst » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:30 am

My stepmother trekked to Winn Dixie here in Port Saint Lucie and they were completely out of water and many non-perishables were running low. She came home with Bagel Thins - the only bread she could find.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6355 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:32 am

FLLurker32 wrote:
ronjon wrote:Not sure why the NHC is so far offshore. Both the GFS AND ECM pretty much show a landfall near the cape and essentially riding the eye right along the coast to St Aug.


I'm wondering the same. I'm inland. About 50-60 miles directly west of Daytona beach. With their placement offshore our TS watch only says 25-35mph winds. If what the GFS and Euro paths show are correct and it comes right to the coast it would be more like 60mph winds. That's the difference between people here taking it seriously vs. thinking it's no big deal. Talk about rolling the dice...
if people in a warned area dont take it seriously because they focus on the line then really thats their problem because nhc and local media continuously repeat dont focus on the line..this is why we have watches and warnings
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6356 Postby NDG » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:32 am

ronjon wrote:Not sure why the NHC is so far offshore. Both the GFS AND ECM pretty much show a landfall near the cape and essentially riding the eye right along the coast to St Aug.


We know that the NHC like to see some consistency before making subtle change to its track, I would suspect that they will shift the track closer to the 0z Euro and 06z GFS on their 11 AM Advisory, IMO.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6357 Postby newtotex » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:35 am

This could be a stupid question, but why does Florida not do that Guam did after Super Typhoon Pamela? All wooden buildings were replaced with concrete (essentially ICF homes) and all utility poles are either concrete or have been moved underground.

It seems like it would be a good idea for those who are not able to evacuate
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6358 Postby fci » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:35 am

NDG wrote:
ronjon wrote:Not sure why the NHC is so far offshore. Both the GFS AND ECM pretty much show a landfall near the cape and essentially riding the eye right along the coast to St Aug.


We know that the NHC like to see some consistency before making subtle change to its track, I would suspect that they will shift the track closer to the 0z Euro and 06z GFS on their 11 AM Advisory, IMO.


They didn't wait on Monday afternoon when they made the dramatic shift West
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6359 Postby abajan » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:37 am

northjaxpro wrote:
DESTRUCTION5 wrote:I have no words....06z GFS loops back for 2nd landfall in Central Florida area. 150 hr timeframe.


Unbelievable!! We could be talking about Matthew well into next week.

Yes but according to Levi Cowan's most recent video, if it loops back, it would likely be much weaker by the time it heads back to the coast. (He mentions this at 12:48).
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#6360 Postby FLLurker32 » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:40 am

jlauderdal wrote:
FLLurker32 wrote:
ronjon wrote:Not sure why the NHC is so far offshore. Both the GFS AND ECM pretty much show a landfall near the cape and essentially riding the eye right along the coast to St Aug.


I'm wondering the same. I'm inland. About 50-60 miles directly west of Daytona beach. With their placement offshore our TS watch only says 25-35mph winds. If what the GFS and Euro paths show are correct and it comes right to the coast it would be more like 60mph winds. That's the difference between people here taking it seriously vs. thinking it's no big deal. Talk about rolling the dice...
if people in a warned area dont take it seriously because they focus on the line then really thats their problem because nhc and local media continuously repeat dont focus on the line..this is why we have watches and warnings


Except when a local met keeps repeating it providing county by county maps. Which is what I'm seeing.
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