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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6961 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:08 pm

benh316 wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:Recon reporting 58 KT FL wind . Slowly but surely organizing and strengthening.


Northjaxpro - not sure if we have met before but if you work for NWS then probably..

Hypothetically.. If this system keeps heading east, How long before NHC updates the trajectory? Just curious because of how dangerous this is becoming


I am with a private company which I help them in weather forecasting. I am not with the NWS directly, but do know those guys there at our NWS Jax office.

I also think we will see more adjustments to the track with time later tonight or early Friday if the trends I am seeing continue into the evening hours.
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Recon

#6962 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:08 pm

Through 6:55pm EDT:

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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6963 Postby sponger » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:09 pm

northjaxpro wrote:
benh316 wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:Recon reporting 58 KT FL wind . Slowly but surely organizing and strengthening.


Northjaxpro - not sure if we have met before but if you work for NWS then probably..

Hypothetically.. If this system keeps heading east, How long before NHC updates the trajectory? Just curious because of how dangerous this is becoming


I am with a private company which I help them in weather forecasting. I am not with the NWS directly, but do know those guys there at our NWS Jax office.

I also think we will see more adjustments to the track with time later tonigh or early Friday if the trends I am seeing continue into the evening hours.


More Cedar Keyish?
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6964 Postby Dean4Storms » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:09 pm

Looks like the LLC did a cyclonic loop once it aligned with the MLC, should continue on a NNE heading.
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6965 Postby tigerz3030 » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:10 pm

northjaxpro wrote:
benh316 wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:Recon reporting 58 KT FL wind . Slowly but surely organizing and strengthening.


Northjaxpro - not sure if we have met before but if you work for NWS then probably..

Hypothetically.. If this system keeps heading east, How long before NHC updates the trajectory? Just curious because of how dangerous this is becoming


I am with a private company which I help them in weather forecasting. I am not with the NWS directly, but do know those guys there at our NWS Jax office.

I also think we will see more adjustments to the track with time later tonigh or early Friday if the trends I am seeing continue into the evening hours.


What kind of changes? More east again towards us? Also, does anyone have a link where I can see the latest look of Hermine?
Thanks
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6966 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:11 pm

Man this system is really starting to look good tonight. Recon is showing it is strengthening at a good clip. Is there more recon heading into the storm right now?
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6967 Postby indianforever » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:11 pm

northjaxpro wrote:
benh316 wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:Recon reporting 58 KT FL wind . Slowly but surely organizing and strengthening.


Northjaxpro - not sure if we have met before but if you work for NWS then probably..

Hypothetically.. If this system keeps heading east, How long before NHC updates the trajectory? Just curious because of how dangerous this is becoming


I am with a private company which I help them in weather forecasting. I am not with the NWS directly, but do know those guys there at our NWS Jax office.

I also think we will see more adjustments to the track with time later tonight or early Friday if the trends I am seeing continue into the evening hours.


Which way?
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6968 Postby benh316 » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:11 pm

tigerz3030 wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:
benh316 wrote:
Northjaxpro - not sure if we have met before but if you work for NWS then probably..

Hypothetically.. If this system keeps heading east, How long before NHC updates the trajectory? Just curious because of how dangerous this is becoming


I am with a private company which I help them in weather forecasting. I am not with the NWS directly, but do know those guys there at our NWS Jax office.

I also think we will see more adjustments to the track with time later tonigh or early Friday if the trends I am seeing continue into the evening hours.


What kind of changes? More east again towards us? Also, does anyone have a link where I can see the latest look of Hermine?
Thanks


Here is the IR for night time:

http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... olor=black

Watch it like a hawk lol
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6969 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:11 pm

lando wrote:
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NDG wrote:It sure looks like that during the past couple of hours Hermine as a whole is moving more east than north by looking at the satellite loop, might be just part of the organization.


We discussed this earlier but it was overlooked. The organization through centripetal force and cyclonic motion caused the system to wobble east much of the day.. It was probably predicted earlier that this would go further east than anticipated due to its failure to organize sooner. However now we may have an even more dangerous scenario where it has picked up intensity ANd speed as it was aimed due 90-100 degrees east by northeast... Meaning it may not turn now anywhere near projections and south Florida may be in trouble and ill-prepared. Scary


How much should I read into this? Can it really hit tampa? we aren't in the cone of doom :lol:


We might as well be all the energy is on our side.. that stupid cone moves back and forth and the NHC edits it...I would concern myself with the cone but think of the bigger picture 4 days ago the models were all in agreement about a hit on fort myers / venice..point is models are only right when they are lol
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6970 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:11 pm

sponger wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:
benh316 wrote:
Northjaxpro - not sure if we have met before but if you work for NWS then probably..

Hypothetically.. If this system keeps heading east, How long before NHC updates the trajectory? Just curious because of how dangerous this is becoming


I am with a private company which I help them in weather forecasting. I am not with the NWS directly, but do know those guys there at our NWS Jax office.

I also think we will see more adjustments to the track with time later tonigh or early Friday if the trends I am seeing continue into the evening hours.


More Cedar Keyish?


I never have deviated in my thinking with landfall. I am still thinking somewhere from Dixie County to Cedar Key.
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Recon

#6971 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:13 pm

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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6972 Postby tropicwatch » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:13 pm

AF is up and might be able to put an end to the Sqaubling.
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6973 Postby chris_fit » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:14 pm

panamatropicwatch wrote:AF is up and might be able to put an end to the Sqaubling.


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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6974 Postby Evil Jeremy » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:14 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:Man this system is really starting to look good tonight. Recon is showing it is strengthening at a good clip. Is there more recon heading into the storm right now?


Yes, another mission took off within the past half hour.
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6975 Postby sponger » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:14 pm

northjaxpro wrote:
sponger wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:
I am with a private company which I help them in weather forecasting. I am not with the NWS directly, but do know those guys there at our NWS Jax office.

I also think we will see more adjustments to the track with time later tonigh or early Friday if the trends I am seeing continue into the evening hours.


More Cedar Keyish?


I never have deviated in my thinking with landfall. I am still thinking somewhere from Dixie County to Cedar Key.


That will be ugly for us!
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6976 Postby lando » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:15 pm

SEASON_CANCELED wrote:
lando wrote:
benh316 wrote:
We discussed this earlier but it was overlooked. The organization through centripetal force and cyclonic motion caused the system to wobble east much of the day.. It was probably predicted earlier that this would go further east than anticipated due to its failure to organize sooner. However now we may have an even more dangerous scenario where it has picked up intensity ANd speed as it was aimed due 90-100 degrees east by northeast... Meaning it may not turn now anywhere near projections and south Florida may be in trouble and ill-prepared. Scary


How much should I read into this? Can it really hit tampa? we aren't in the cone of doom :lol:


We might as well be all the energy is on our side.. that stupid cone moves back and forth and the NHC edits it...I would concern myself with the cone but think of the bigger picture 4 days ago the models were all in agreement about a hit on fort myers / venice..point is models are only right when they are lol


Right? I live in TT too but have been up in Wesley chapel all day at work. I cant believe the bucs are playing tonight
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6978 Postby chris_fit » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:17 pm

JaxGator wrote:


More storms are popping on that loop. The strengthening trend is ominous.


So is that eastward push an illusion or really happening? I cant even tell with recon lol
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#6979 Postby benh316 » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:18 pm

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More storms are popping on that loop. The strengthening trend is ominous.


Well this is what is concerning.. Assuming this system still makes landfall as far north as NHC and models agreed on, the intensity by tomorrow could be so much different, nobody will be truly prepared.

I am more disconcerted still about the ultimate track and sincerely hope I end up being wrong. If I am right - that won't be a good thing for anyone in Tampa and south
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Re: ATL: HERMINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6980 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:18 pm

lando wrote:
SEASON_CANCELED wrote:
lando wrote:
How much should I read into this? Can it really hit tampa? we aren't in the cone of doom :lol:


We might as well be all the energy is on our side.. that stupid cone moves back and forth and the NHC edits it...I would concern myself with the cone but think of the bigger picture 4 days ago the models were all in agreement about a hit on fort myers / venice..point is models are only right when they are lol


Right? I live in TT too but have been up in Wesley chapel all day at work. I cant believe the bucs are playing tonight



What's up temple terrace!! Small town here but batten down your hatches we got a mean line coming...as far as the buccs go I don't know about predicting the storm but I can probably predict they will lose :lol:
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