ATL: MATTHEW - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7081 Postby RL3AO » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:31 pm

It's not intensifying yet. I was just commenting that it has the appearance of many storms that I've seen quickly intensify in the hours following. Usually when the ring of -80C convection wraps all the way around the center.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7082 Postby Alyono » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:33 pm

Unfortunately, but what we expected, the death toll is quickly climbing in Haiti
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7083 Postby Raebie » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:33 pm

wxman57 wrote:
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Those are outflow boundaries, from previously-collapsed squalls. They're not a sign of strengthening, they mean that an area of squalls has collapsed. These outflow boundaries are often seen around a weakening storm.


I'm confused by that statement because Matthew is gaining strength.


Key word in my response was "often". Outflow boundaries are often (not always) a sign of a weakening storm.


ThankS. What are your current on thoughts...is he intensifying, just trying to reorganize?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7084 Postby Raebie » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:35 pm

dhweather wrote:
Raebie wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
Those are outflow boundaries, from previously-collapsed squalls. They're not a sign of strengthening, they mean that an area of squalls has collapsed. These outflow boundaries are often seen around a weakening storm.


I'm confused by that statement because Matthew is gaining strength.


What are you basing that on?


Board hysteria. Lol. JK. Seems to be getting much better organized and poised to intensify. Is that better?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7085 Postby Exalt » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:36 pm

Raebie wrote:
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Raebie wrote:
I'm confused by that statement because Matthew is gaining strength.


Key word in my response was "often". Outflow boundaries are often (not always) a sign of a weakening storm.


ThankS. What are your current on thoughts...is he intensifying, just trying to reorganize?


The storm is very much intensifying/reorganizing as shown by satellite images, it's attempting to reclose the eyewall, and has much stronger convection than it did right out the gate at Cuba.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7086 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:36 pm

RL3AO wrote:It's not intensifying yet. I was just commenting that it has the appearance of many storms that I've seen quickly intensify in the hours following. Usually when the ring of -80C convection wraps all the way around the center.


It may take a few hours before we see pressures fall off within the eyewall. But, I agree RL3AO that eventually withat deep convection wrapping all around in the eyewall, that intensification will occure soon.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7087 Postby swampgator92 » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:38 pm

How about it is reorganizing?

http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... map=latlon

The last images show a much more classic hurricane shape. It just needs the eye to pop out. It's possible that the wind field is expanding and that is reducing the maximum winds since they are being spread over a much larger area.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7088 Postby Soonercane » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:38 pm

So it appears to be weakening based on recon, that is great news for the folks in Florida... The question is will it continue?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7089 Postby SunnyThoughts » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:38 pm

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7090 Postby WPBWeather » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:39 pm

Soonercane wrote:So it appears to be weakening based on recon, that is great news for the folks in Florida... The question is will it continue?



Not likely, unfortunately for us in FL.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7091 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:39 pm

northjaxpro wrote:
RL3AO wrote:It's not intensifying yet. I was just commenting that it has the appearance of many storms that I've seen quickly intensify in the hours following. Usually when the ring of -80C convection wraps all the way around the center.


It may take a few hours before we see pressures fall off within the eyewall. But, I agree RL3AO that eventually withat deep convection wrapping all around in the eyewall, that intensification will occure soon.


with the new hot towers developing on both the east as west side .. the eyewall is nearly closed..

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7092 Postby ZX12R » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:40 pm

Raebie wrote:
dhweather wrote:
Raebie wrote:
I'm confused by that statement because Matthew is gaining strength.


What are you basing that on?


Board hysteria. Lol. JK. Seems to be getting much better organized and poised to intensify. Is that better?


Yeah, that's the ticket! It is "poised" to intensify. :wink:
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7093 Postby RL3AO » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:40 pm

Soonercane wrote:So it appears to be weakening based on recon, that is great news for the folks in Florida... The question is will it continue?


I would be really surprised if that isn't a short term blip.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7094 Postby dhweather » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:40 pm

Raebie wrote:
dhweather wrote:
Raebie wrote:
I'm confused by that statement because Matthew is gaining strength.


What are you basing that on?


Board hysteria. Lol. JK. Seems to be getting much better organized and poised to intensify. Is that better?


lol - if that was the case, you should have called Matthew a Cat 6. :lol:

Outflow from the center seems impeded on the northern side. For any significant intensification to occur, this needs to change. Good outflow in all directions is one of the things you look for.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7095 Postby Raebie » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:42 pm

ZX12R wrote:
Raebie wrote:
dhweather wrote:
What are you basing that on?


Board hysteria. Lol. JK. Seems to be getting much better organized and poised to intensify. Is that better?


Yeah, that's the ticket! It is "poised" to intensify. :wink:


Thought that might get me off the hot seat. Lol.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7096 Postby ronyan » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:45 pm

If the reports coming out of the Bahamas are reliable, it is at minimum 110 mph. There is no large weakening trend I don't believe, especially because the islands have not been in the strongest part near the center.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7097 Postby floridasun78 » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:45 pm

i have say what a week we have storm fl not seen snice andrew their warring for years fl due for cat 4 for years look nina help this hurr we want slow start season now we all east coasts going crazy
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7098 Postby weathermimmi » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:47 pm

I have a question related to Orlando. My son goes to school at UCF and his workplace is not making a decision to close the business until Thursday. What is the guesstimate of winds since Orlando is 60 miles inland if he stays. I think its too late to get in the traffic on Thursday?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7099 Postby xironman » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:48 pm

Northern outflow is impeded? Where is all that cirrus going?

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#7100 Postby syfr » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:50 pm

I've read the summaries from Avila for years (I don't know if it's a HE or a SHE) . These summaries are some of the best organized most clearly stated commentaries that are produced by NHC. Every word counts in these messages and he/she produces very precise information in very organized format.

Well done, Forecaster Avila!
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