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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7281 Postby Hammy » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:51 pm

SFLcane wrote:Hrrr bringing eyewall into Miami

https://t.co/QS3RHd3HS3?ssr=true


Is a trip up I-95 looking like the most likely outcome with this? :eek:
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7282 Postby dexterlabio » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:52 pm

I'm ind of surprised that it weakened a bit... seven hours ago the eye was clearing out fresh from Cuba landfall.. Although, the eye structure is still intact, there is not much work to do if Matthew is to re-intensify in the coming hours.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7283 Postby Exalt » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:53 pm

SFLcane wrote:Hrrr bringing eyewall into Miami

https://t.co/QS3RHd3HS3?ssr=true


Seems to bring the storm extreme WNW rather than NW or N, looks like it's poised to make more than just a graze off the coast, looks like it wants to dig in.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7284 Postby WPBWeather » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:54 pm

SFLcane wrote:Hrrr bringing eyewall into Miami

https://t.co/QS3RHd3HS3?ssr=true


Now THAT would make the evening news for sure. Can't believe how this storm has behaved so far, even if this particular run does not pan out. Many studies lay ahead for this year. Dr. Phil will be very busy, IMO.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7285 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:54 pm

Weatherboy1 wrote:Well, it took seven hours but house is all shuttered and supplies are all stocked for Matthew here in northern PBC. Did most of my buying two days ago - and very thankful for that! Satellite view looks very impressive - will have to see if Recon obs eventually catch up.
took me 8 but had to take multiple breaks including a 30 min siesta...weather was hot and sunny..30 mins after completion we were hit with a downpour..mother nature usually gives the day before for preps and it did today
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7286 Postby ALhurricane » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:55 pm

I would be extremely careful using the HRRR in a tropical situation.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7287 Postby RL3AO » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:55 pm

SFLcane wrote:Hrrr bringing eyewall into Miami

https://t.co/QS3RHd3HS3?ssr=true


Well I can only hope this is a model not designed for tropical cyclones being way too fast and too far south.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7288 Postby JaxGator » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:56 pm

Hammy wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Hrrr bringing eyewall into Miami

https://t.co/QS3RHd3HS3?ssr=true


Is a trip up I-95 looking like the most likely outcome with this? :eek:


That's what the Euro and GFS have been showing for the past day (or just off the coast). Bad stuff. From West Palm and up the coast.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7289 Postby GeneratorPower » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:56 pm

Forgive the apparent locality bias, but we in SW Florida have been really struggling with what to do if there is an unexpected jog left tonight. That HRRR is not helping. It's basically too late to put up shutters. It takes hours because they are second story. If this goes to Miami it will be a colossal miscalculation by the experts and the entire area is under warned and underprepared.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7290 Postby Blinhart » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:57 pm

I have a feeling that this might get all the way up to Cat. 5 before land fall in the Miami/Dade area before deciding not to go up the East Coast and going straight into the GoM before any major North movement.

Pure gut feeling, the cool front that is stalled over Florida will push it further West.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7291 Postby RL3AO » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:57 pm

Plane going back towards the center. Eyewall may be closed.

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7292 Postby Exalt » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:57 pm

ALhurricane wrote:I would be extremely careful using the HRRR in a tropical situation.


HRRR did quite well with Hermine IIRC.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7293 Postby GeneratorPower » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:57 pm

ALhurricane wrote:I would be extremely careful using the HRRR in a tropical situation.


We are definitely being careful. But it has been nerve racking.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7294 Postby Exalt » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:59 pm

Blinhart wrote:I have a feeling that this might get all the way up to Cat. 5 before land fall in the Miami/Dade area before deciding not to go up the East Coast and going straight into the GoM before any major North movement.

Pure gut feeling, the cool front that is stalled over Florida will push it further West.


Yeah the westerly jog on the HRRR has me feeling things I really am scared about, a possible Andrew 2.0.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7295 Postby ZX12R » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:59 pm

Blinhart wrote:I have a feeling that this might get all the way up to Cat. 5 before land fall in the Miami/Dade area before deciding not to go up the East Coast and going straight into the GoM before any major North movement.

Pure gut feeling, the cool front that is stalled over Florida will push it further West.


Thank God it's just a gut feeling.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7296 Postby johngaltfla » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:59 pm

GeneratorPower wrote:Forgive the apparent locality bias, but we in SW Florida have been really struggling with what to do if there is an unexpected jog left tonight. That HRRR is not helping. It's basically too late to put up shutters. It takes hours because they are second story. If this goes to Miami it will be a colossal miscalculation by the experts and the entire area is under warned and underprepared.


I'm not a met but I'm not as worried as the storm will likely pass north of you and I and curve back to the NNE or NE before major impacts reach our region. Just my .02 and per our local mets on TV.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7297 Postby ALhurricane » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:59 pm

Exalt wrote:
ALhurricane wrote:I would be extremely careful using the HRRR in a tropical situation.


HRRR did quite well with Hermine IIRC.


It actually did not do that well. It had Hermine going in the direction of Mobile/Pensacola for several runs.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7298 Postby Blinhart » Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:00 pm

Exalt wrote:
Blinhart wrote:I have a feeling that this might get all the way up to Cat. 5 before land fall in the Miami/Dade area before deciding not to go up the East Coast and going straight into the GoM before any major North movement.

Pure gut feeling, the cool front that is stalled over Florida will push it further West.


Yeah the westerly jog on the HRRR has me feeling things I really am scared about, a possible Andrew 2.0.


I didn't want to say his name at all, with the bad Karma and all.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7299 Postby GeneratorPower » Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:01 pm

johngaltfla wrote:
GeneratorPower wrote:Forgive the apparent locality bias, but we in SW Florida have been really struggling with what to do if there is an unexpected jog left tonight. That HRRR is not helping. It's basically too late to put up shutters. It takes hours because they are second story. If this goes to Miami it will be a colossal miscalculation by the experts and the entire area is under warned and underprepared.


I'm not a met but I'm not as worried as the storm will likely pass north of you and I and curve back to the NNE or NE before major impacts reach our region. Just my .02 and per our local mets on TV.


Yeah. That. We hope.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#7300 Postby RL3AO » Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:01 pm

ALhurricane wrote:I would be extremely careful using the HRRR in a tropical situation.


It just seems too fast with the forward movement too. I have no reason to expect the HRRR to handle a TC well.

Of course, if its right...
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