ATL: MATTHEW - Post-Tropical - Discussion

[TimeZone]

Saved radar loop.

Storm looks quite a bit further E than I was anticipating.

[StormHunter72]

Looking like gfs may be the founder of a trend. Keep him away

[GCANE]

That new eyewall is about 4 counties wide

[ZX12R]

ERC will most certainly prevent Matthew from attaining Cat 5 status. Could potentially even weaken him to a cat 3.

Don't make definitive statements you can't backup, there's no need for that here. No one knows if this will prevent cat 5 or not, it depends how long it takes and how long Matthew is over water. If it greatly expands the wind field then it may make this storm a lot worse than a smaller core cat 5.

Plenty of time left over warm water, for things to happen.

[jlauderdal]

Ouch! Nbc6 morales giving the all clear in dade and broward and Rick knabb contredicting eveything he said saying to respect warnings. The was crazy to see

i saw it too, lets see how the track works next few hours...radar shows it should be raining in my area...its completely dry...winds are picking up

To much focus on core. Bands will still sweep through. That seen on nbc6 was just odd I think knabb was upset

59 mph gust at port everglades...i suspect knabb will speak with morales after the event...john is good but he was a little to giddy...saying the core was going to miss is fine because it is but then ensure everyone understands the worst is coming

[Exalt]

Saved radar loop.

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Storm looks quite a bit further E than I was anticipating.

That's a moat if I've ever seen one.

[floridasun78]

not sure how long i going have internet or tv when stronger wind come into dade their reporting power issue in dade an d broward

[Aric Dunn]

NOaa plane is on the way from tampa finally.

[Raebie]

How long does a ERC typically take once the outer wall forms? And how much time does Matt have left over water?

[cjrciadt]

That new eyewall is about 4 counties wide

I remember Frances had a gigantic eye of the coast, but it was not a double eyewall.

[ScottNAtlanta]

I think an expanded wind field could be much more damaging than a 10-15 mph increase in wind speed. ERCs tend to greatly expand the wind field pretty quickly exposing more people to damaging winds

[SapphireSea]

i saw it too, lets see how the track works next few hours...radar shows it should be raining in my area...its completely dry...winds are picking up

To much focus on core. Bands will still sweep through. That seen on nbc6 was just odd I think knabb was upset

59 mph gust at port everglades...i suspect knabb will speak with morales after the event...john is good but he was a little to giddy...saying the core was going to miss is fine because it is but then ensure everyone understands the worst is coming

Im less than 2 miles from Port Everglades and I saw no such gusts. Perhaps its over the water or literally over the coast area.

[Ken711]

What's the latest pressure?

[dhweather]

Please do not say this could become a Cat.5, where I am in Palm Beach Gardens I am just 4miles from the coast and in an evacuation zone for a Cat.5 so I am praying that it struggles to intensify if at all.

I would be getting my evacuation plans finalized. Do not be wishing you had evacuated because it "was only a 3 or 4".

Well we fared VERY well for Frances, Jeanne, and Wilma in terms of our house. By the way it's a solid Concrete Built House with a tiled roof in a uniform development. In fact most in this community are not evacuating that we know of. What's your take?

Wilma made landfall on the Gulf side of Florida, then crossed the state before you felt any effects. Frances and Jeanne both made landfall to your North, meaning the worst of the weather was to your North.

Maybe Matthew follows suit, maybe he does not. If you are wrong and Matthew jogs slightly to the West, you could very well have the core of a cat 4 or 5 on top of you. Of course, while the hurricane is ongoing, you cannot evacuate, you are stuck. Better safe than sorry. I was five miles inland for Katrina and Ivan, I still evacuated, you just don't risk it in a major.

[ScottNAtlanta]

How long does a ERC typically take once the outer wall forms? And how much time does Matt have left over water?

Its hard to say. Skill in ERCs is very low, and each storm is different.

[swampgator92]

Looking like gfs may be the founder of a trend. Keep him away

What are you talking about? 12Z GFS brings Matthew inland north of Cape Canaveral.

[Aric Dunn]

How long does a ERC typically take once the outer wall forms? And how much time does Matt have left over water?

all depends on many factors.. big one is the size.. this is a pretty small system so it could take hours..


honestly its happening rather quickly already interesting to see..

[TheStormExpert]

That new eyewall is about 4 counties wide

That's an Eye-Wall!?

[jlauderdal]

To much focus on core. Bands will still sweep through. That seen on nbc6 was just odd I think knabb was upset

59 mph gust at port everglades...i suspect knabb will speak with morales after the event...john is good but he was a little to giddy...saying the core was going to miss is fine because it is but then ensure everyone understands the worst is coming

Im less than 2 miles from Port Everglades and I saw no such gusts. Perhaps its over the water or literally over the coast area.

nws has it up on there site as local storm report..remember these feeder bands can produce conditions not seen just a few miles away

http://kamala.cod.edu/fl/latest.nwus52.KMFL.html

[Exalt]

ERC will most certainly prevent Matthew from attaining Cat 5 status. Could potentially even weaken him to a cat 3.

Don't make definitive statements you can't backup, there's no need for that here. No one knows if this will prevent cat 5 or not, it depends how long it takes and how long Matthew is over water. If it greatly expands the wind field then it may make this storm a lot worse than a smaller core cat 5.

Plenty of time left over warm water, for things to happen.

Exactly, especially how it's tracking a bit east of the NHC, and how good it's been at rebuilding, may I remind you of the small ERC that happened prior to the Haiti landfall where it remained stable.