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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#921 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:55 pm

centuryv58 wrote:
nativefloridian wrote:
johngaltfla wrote:I know this much. My long range forecast from Accuweather for my area is uh, "interesting" to say the least...

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:double: :eek:


I decided to check my forecast out and see pretty much the same as you do. I'm in Broward County and for 10/9 it says Day: 47 mph winds - Gusts to 100 mph and Evening 41 mph winds - Gusts to 84 mph. :roll:


I'm afraid now to check mine in West Palm Beach. These can't be posted as real forecasts with so much doubt, can they?? :?:
they are in the forecast business and they made a forecast..cant fault them for that
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#922 Postby CaneCurious » Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:55 pm

johngaltfla wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:Bernie Rayno has a very complex solution

http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-v ... s/vbraynob


That explains our long range forecast from Accuweather.


Well this just burst my bubble that the gulf coast was pretty safe from Matthew.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#923 Postby srva80 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:59 pm

johngaltfla wrote:I know this much. My long range forecast from Accuweather for my area is uh, "interesting" to say the least...

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:double: :eek:


WTH??

looks like we're going to get hit on the east coast as well

http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/boynton-beach-fl/33436/daily-weather-forecast/14526_pc?day=12
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#924 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:03 pm

hour to go and we see how nhc deals with the euro..remember the real wildcard is beyond 5 days
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#925 Postby SouthernBreeze » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:08 pm

Accuweather showing 50-55mph gusts Oct 11 & 12 here - I'm assuming that's just from front interaction, not Mathew

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#926 Postby Blown Away » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:09 pm

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#927 Postby robbielyn » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:11 pm

srva80 wrote:
johngaltfla wrote:I know this much. My long range forecast from Accuweather for my area is uh, "interesting" to say the least...

Image

:double: :eek:


WTH??

looks like we're going to get hit on the east coast as well

http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/boynton-beach-fl/33436/daily-weather-forecast/14526_pc?day=12

my brooksville, fl 40miles nw of tampa, west central florida coast oct 10th nnw winds 23 gusting to 76 a and oct 11th wnw at 29 gusting to 64
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#928 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:17 pm

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#929 Postby fci » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:17 pm

stormchazer wrote:
fci wrote:
CaneCurious wrote:
This is the first I've heard of a Betsy track. That's not good.


Betsy is almost a once in a lifetime track.
Went all the way up to bring a threat to NC, east of Daytona before it looped, headed South and turned west across Key Largo.
It also came from the southeast, north of Puerto Rico.
If you are referring to taking a hard right turn maybe it's more like Hurricane Jeanne.


Didn't Jeanne take a hard left turn?


Yes, that is correct! Oops....
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#930 Postby sma10 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:20 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
centuryv58 wrote:
nativefloridian wrote:
I decided to check my forecast out and see pretty much the same as you do. I'm in Broward County and for 10/9 it says Day: 47 mph winds - Gusts to 100 mph and Evening 41 mph winds - Gusts to 84 mph. :roll:


I'm afraid now to check mine in West Palm Beach. These can't be posted as real forecasts with so much doubt, can they?? :?:
they are in the forecast business and they made a forecast..cant fault them for that


I think I'm going to bet the "under" on this forecast. :cheesy:
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#931 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:21 pm

AdamFirst wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:Looks like SFL dodged yet another bullet, for now.


You've been here a year already and are making assumptions like that...come on, now

I'm really basing this off the Euro and GFS. Hence "For now"
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#932 Postby fci » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:22 pm

robbielyn wrote:
srva80 wrote:
johngaltfla wrote:I know this much. My long range forecast from Accuweather for my area is uh, "interesting" to say the least...

Image

:double: :eek:


WTH??

looks like we're going to get hit on the east coast as well

http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/boynton-beach-fl/33436/daily-weather-forecast/14526_pc?day=12

my brooksville, fl 40miles nw of tampa, west central florida coast oct 10th nnw winds 23 gusting to 76 a and oct 11th wnw at 29 gusting to 64


Seems like a computer model projects out the maps and plots wind speeds automatically. I'm certain that a human did not make those forecasts for many days from now.
Look, I'm far from a JB fan (got in trouble for being critical of him in the past), I like Bernie; but the bottom line is to cut Accuweather some slack for computer generated long term local forcasts. In my opinion of course
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#933 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:27 pm

StormHunter72 wrote:Really Accuweather is being very irresponsible. Two words,, Bastardi . Acccuracy :D


fci wrote:Seems like a computer model projects out the maps and plots wind speeds automatically. I'm certain that a human did not make those forecasts for many days from now.
Look, I'm far from a JB fan (got in trouble for being critical of him in the past), I like Bernie; but the bottom line is to cut Accuweather some slack for computer generated long term local forcasts. In my opinion of course


Joe hasn't been at Accuweather for over 5 years now. Not sure who exactly is their long range forecaster now.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#934 Postby ronyan » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:29 pm

Seems like a computer model projects out the maps and plots wind speeds automatically. I'm certain that a human did not make those forecasts for many days from now.
Look, I'm far from a JB fan (got in trouble for being critical of him in the past), I like Bernie; but the bottom line is to cut Accuweather some slack for computer generated long term local forcasts. In my opinion of course


Yes, I'm pretty sure most weather sites use algorithms to generate those long range forecasts, not human input. You would think that there would be some controls to prevent extreme forecasts from showing up.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#935 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:35 pm

otowntiger wrote:
While I'm certainly no expert, my untrained take on this image seems to scream for a solid north to NNE movement following that very clear weakness between the apparent/potential ridge over FL and the Bermuda high to it's east. Why wouldn't it follow that 'blue river' to its north?
it would if that modeling is correct but that is in question
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#936 Postby FireRat » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:36 pm

IMO, Accuweather's super long range (8+ days) is subject to change drastically and is just for "entertainment" purposes. At best, the forecast simply hints at local weather patterns that may exist in the future days, such as a tropical cyclone. It's just like watching their long range calling for cold fronts in south FL in winter, only for the forecast temps to wildly change. Do not take the 10/9 forecast too seriously!

Florida won't really know if they're in the threat until this weekend at the earliest!
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#937 Postby johngaltfla » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:39 pm

FireRat wrote:IMO, Accuweather's super long range (8+ days) is subject to change drastically and is just for "entertainment" purposes. At best, the forecast simply hints at local weather patterns that may exist in the future days, such as a tropical cyclone. It's just like watching their long range calling for cold fronts in south FL in winter, only for the forecast temps to wildly change. Do not take the 10/9 forecast too seriously!

Florida won't really know if they're in the threat until this weekend at the earliest!


If the forward speed slows down dramatically as projected, we may not know until next Tues-Wed.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#938 Postby JaxGator » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:39 pm

Stu Ostro ‏@StuOstro · 1h1 hour ago

Hi-res MODIS satellite image of #Matthew, a classic-looking potent Caribbean tropical storm

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtdprSKWAAAatdS.jpg
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#939 Postby johngaltfla » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:40 pm

JaxGator wrote:Stu Ostro ‏@StuOstro · 1h1 hour ago

Hi-res MODIS satellite image of #Matthew, a classic-looking potent Caribbean tropical storm

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtdprSKWAAAatdS.jpg


Beautiful outflow. He's in position to intensify rapidly...good looking storm.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#940 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:43 pm

The stronger Matthew gets early on the more likely the system is to turn north quicker correct?
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