ATL: MATTHEW - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9681 Postby tolakram » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:13 pm

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HURRICANE MATTHEW DISCUSSION NUMBER 36
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL142016
1100 PM EDT THU OCT 06 2016

The satellite appearance of Matthew has improved during the past
several hours, with an eye embedded within a more circular central
dense overcast and an increase in the outer banding. Reports from
a NOAA Hurricane Hunter aircraft and coastal radar data show the
presence of centric eyewalls with diameters of about 8 and 60 n mi
respectively. The NOAA aircraft earlier reported a minimum pressure
of 937 mb, and an Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter just reported
estimated surface winds of 109 kt from the SFMR and a pressure of
939 mb. Based on these data, the initial intensity is 115 kt.

The initial motion is 325/11 kt. For the next 24-48 hours, Matthew
should move around the western end of the subtropical ridge, with
the motion gradually turning northward and then northeastward.
During this time, the center of the guidance envelope and the
various consensus models have shifted a little to the east. However,
the ECMWF, GFS, and UKMET continue to suggest the possibility of the
hurricane making landfall in Florida and then moving near the coasts
of Georgia and South Carolina. This part of the forecast is nudged
a little to the east and lies between the model consensus and the
previous forecast. After 48 hours, a mid- to upper-level ridge is
forecast to build north and west of Matthew, and the track guidance
forecasts a southeasterly to southerly motion in response. While
there is still a large spread, the GFS, ECMWF, and UKMET are in
better agreement that Matthew should move south between the ridge
and Hurricane Nicole to the east. This part of the forecast follows
this guidance and lies between the GFS and ECMWF.

During the next 12-24 hours, Matthew will likely weaken a little as
it undergoes an eyewall replacement cycle. After that time, it is
expected to encounter strong southwesterly vertical shear, and later
in the forecast period dry air is likely to entrain into the
cyclone. This combination should cause steady weakening, and
Matthew is forecast to drop below hurricane strength by 72 hours.
The new intensity forecast is in best agreement with the SHIPS
model.

KEY MESSAGES:

1. Matthew is likely to produce devastating impacts from storm
surge, extreme winds, and heavy rains in the northwestern Bahamas
today, and along extensive portions of the east coast of Florida
tonight.

2. Evacuations are not just a coastal event. Strong winds will
occur well inland from the coast, and residents of mobile
homes under evacuation orders are urged to heed those orders.

3. Hurricane winds increase very rapidly with height, and residents
of high-rise buildings are at particular risk of strong winds. Winds
at the top of a 30-story building will average one Saffir-Simpson
category higher than the winds near the surface.

4. When a hurricane is forecast to take a track roughly parallel to
a coastline, as Matthew is forecast to do from Florida through South
Carolina, it becomes very difficult to specify impacts at any one
location. Only a small deviation of the track to the left of the
NHC forecast could bring the core of a major hurricane onshore
within the hurricane warning area in Florida and Georgia. Modest
deviations to the right could keep much of the hurricane-force winds
offshore. Similarly large variations in impacts are possible in the
hurricane watch and warning areas in northeast Georgia and South
Carolina.

5. The National Hurricane Center is issuing Potential Storm Surge
Flooding Maps, and Prototype Storm Surge Watch/Warning Graphics for
Matthew. It is important to remember that the Potential Storm Surge
Flooding Map does not represent a forecast of expected inundation,
but rather depicts a reasonable worst-case scenario -- the amount of
inundation that has a 10 percent chance of being exceeded.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 07/0300Z 27.1N 79.2W 115 KT 130 MPH
12H 07/1200Z 28.5N 80.2W 110 KT 125 MPH
24H 08/0000Z 30.3N 80.8W 105 KT 120 MPH
36H 08/1200Z 31.8N 80.2W 90 KT 105 MPH
48H 09/0000Z 32.6N 78.7W 75 KT 85 MPH
72H 10/0000Z 31.5N 75.5W 60 KT 70 MPH
96H 11/0000Z 29.0N 75.5W 50 KT 60 MPH
120H 12/0000Z 27.0N 77.0W 40 KT 45 MPH

$$
Forecaster Beven
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9682 Postby Ken711 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:14 pm

tolakram wrote:For those that can't reach NHC.

[i mg]http://i.imgur.com/D43c87o.png[/img]


Thanks
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9683 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:15 pm

Radar showing another wobble more to yhe wnw to nw. Heading still right towards central florida
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9684 Postby ronyan » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:16 pm

CNN reporting the outage as breaking news now, oh boy.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9685 Postby tolakram » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:17 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Radar showing another wobble more to yhe wnw to nw. Heading still right towards central florida


I have a calibrated napkin that when I line up the various points appears to show it missing the cape by a smidgen. My technique is infallible. What I do note is that the larger eye may indeed bring the eyewall over the cape, though not count as a landfall.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9686 Postby stephen23 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:17 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Radar showing another wobble more to yhe wnw to nw. Heading still right towards central florida

I mentioned this a while back and Ozonepete got all over me for it.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9687 Postby utweather » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:18 pm

ronyan wrote:CNN reporting the outage as breaking news now, oh boy.


Weird I've been able to get on the site
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9688 Postby Steve » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:19 pm

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... s=0&ypos=0

02z HRRR a smoother and less sharp hit west. It still landfalls, but it's more on a softer course. Maybe it is a throw away, but we'll know by 12:00am either way.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9689 Postby ronyan » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:19 pm

Palm Beach is under a heavy band, won't report the obs from that station though it seems believable.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9690 Postby JtSmarts » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:19 pm

I'm not sure if the lower SC coast will be able to escape terrible surge even with this eastward shift. :cry:
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9691 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:19 pm

So, in my opinion, this western turn isn't the inner eye swinging around the outer eye and seems to be a bit more than just a wobble. Looks almost 280 - 290 heading right now. Again just my observation.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9692 Postby psyclone » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:21 pm

Matthew's long term track...and that contorted cone. He's like...oops how could I forget to hit Abaco..
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9693 Postby Raebie » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:21 pm

tolakram wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Radar showing another wobble more to yhe wnw to nw. Heading still right towards central florida


I have a calibrated napkin that when I line up the various points appears to show it missing the cape by a smidgen. My technique is infallible. What I do note is that the larger eye may indeed bring the eyewall over the cape, though not count as a landfall.


Well I, for one, am not going to argue with a calibated napkin.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9694 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:21 pm

Extrapolated motion would put this around Melbourne but as we all know a wobble could landfall this farther south and vise versa
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9695 Postby Happy Pelican » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:23 pm

I have to wonder how many people truly understand just how dangerous the storm surge could be? It comes in so fast that you barely have time to process what's happening.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9696 Postby Steve » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:24 pm

It's interesting to me that the NW side, while it does have some solid bands rotating, doesn't have the extreme weather. It was the N side of Isaac that ended up sparing New Orleans in 2010 as it also was sort of broken up. I don't want to get banned, but they might be dy-no-mating these things. :)
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9697 Postby Blinhart » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:24 pm

tolakram wrote:For those that can't reach NHC.

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So in 5 days might be in the same spot or 100 miles further East of where he is right now, wow. Yes I know he is suppose to be just a TS, but who really knows.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9698 Postby Hammy » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:25 pm

Unless my eyes are playing tricks on me, this is moving to the left of a coast parallel which I don't think it was doing on a long-term basis earlier.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9699 Postby Sanibel » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:25 pm

shortwave wrote:Here in Palm Bay FL. Nothing of note as of yet. Some tropical storm force gusts. A few transformers going off in the distance, power still on, but probably not for much longer. Not looking forward to the main rain shield and winds, but nothing compared to what was projected consistently for days. All in path, Stay safe.



The hammer bands are not quite there yet.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9700 Postby Happy Pelican » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:26 pm

JtSmarts wrote:I'm not sure if the lower SC coast will be able to escape terrible surge even with this eastward shift. :cry:


Honestly, I never really understood just how scary and dangerous a storm surge was until Sandy and I pray I never experience one again.
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