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ATL: HERMINE - Post-Tropical - Discussion

#1 Postby Alyono » Thu Aug 18, 2016 12:45 pm

This is the wave SW of the CV Islands.
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Re: Invest 99L

#2 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Aug 18, 2016 12:47 pm

Expect a mention in the TWO @ 2pm for sure!
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Re: Invest 99L

#3 Postby Siker » Thu Aug 18, 2016 12:49 pm

A tropical wave located about 300 miles southwest of Cabo Verde
Islands is producing widespread cloudiness and disorganized shower
activity. Environmental conditions are expected to be conducive for
gradual development of this disturbance over the next several days
while the system moves westward at about 15 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#4 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Aug 18, 2016 12:57 pm

Looking good!

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#5 Postby Nimbus » Thu Aug 18, 2016 12:59 pm

Another one rolling around down in that moist ITCZ.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#6 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:01 pm

Nimbus wrote:Another one rolling around down in that moist ITCZ.

Probably why the GFS is so bullish on development now is because it stays mostly attached to the ITCZ up until the Lesser Antilles, that also means 99L will miss the SAL to it's north.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#7 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:10 pm

This may very well be the one to watch.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#8 Postby xcool22 » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:17 pm

GFS maybe overdoing the troughines imo
Lots of uncertainty that far out yep


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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#9 Postby Hammy » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:18 pm

Looks badly elongated, and any surface feature is likely around 22-23W so they've initialized it too far west as they did with pre-Fiona. And wasn't this the same wave the Euro had as a strengthening system headed towards the Caribbean only to drop after a few days?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#10 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:20 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#11 Postby Alyono » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:21 pm

it's around 26 on visible
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#12 Postby Gustywind » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:24 pm

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AXNT20 KNHC 181751
TWDAT

Tropical Weather Discussion
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
205 PM EDT THU AUG 18 2016

Tropical wave in east Tropical Atlantic is along 26W/27W from
11N-20N moving 10 to 15 kt over the past 24 hours. Wave
coincides with a well defined 700 mb Global models troughing and
is along the leading edge of a surge of moisture as seen on the
SSMI Total Precipitable Water imagery. No associated showers or
deep convection.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#13 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:30 pm

ECMWF shows this getting buried into South America it appears and develops the wave behind this wave.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#14 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:32 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:ECMWF shows this getting buried into South America it appears and develops the wave behind this wave.

The Euro has consistently preferred that wave for some reason when the GFS has preferred this wave more. Which one is right?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#15 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:34 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:ECMWF shows this getting buried into South America it appears and develops the wave behind this wave.

The Euro has consistently preferred that wave for some reason when the GFS has preferred this wave more. Which one is right?


I tend to agree with the ECMWF most of the time but IDK here though.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#16 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:37 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:ECMWF shows this getting buried into South America it appears and develops the wave behind this wave.

The Euro has consistently preferred that wave for some reason when the GFS has preferred this wave more. Which one is right?


I tend to agree with the ECMWF most of the time but IDK here though.

Yeah it's going to be interesting to see which one manages to get it right, I tend to lean towards the Euro too after all the phantom storms the GFS has pulled in previous years.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#17 Postby Hammy » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:01 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:The Euro has consistently preferred that wave for some reason when the GFS has preferred this wave more. Which one is right?


I tend to agree with the ECMWF most of the time but IDK here though.

Yeah it's going to be interesting to see which one manages to get it right, I tend to lean towards the Euro too after all the phantom storms the GFS has pulled in previous years.


I'm going to go with the Euro, it tends to be more accurate than the GFS once there is some incipient system there--GFS likes to explode everything this time of year (and often misses actual stronger systems that form.)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#18 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:20 pm

I personally think this has the look of a future strong tropical cyclone but looks can be deceiving but this has the ITCZ to feed off of which is a positive that Fiona doesn't have

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#19 Postby Weatherboy1 » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:35 pm

Welcome to the heart of the season, eh? Will be interesting to see if this becomes something other than a recurve like Fiona. Certainly an early read of the models suggests that to be the case
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#20 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:38 pm

Looks vigorous on satellite nice structure. Could be the real deal. Maybe lol
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